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Author Topic: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!  (Read 810516 times)

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #555 on: September 09, 2014, 12:03:16 am »

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #556 on: September 09, 2014, 12:48:32 am »

Yeah, how about the Rainbow Boyz then? Back in ye olde days Warhamster didn't take itself so seriously as it does now, heh.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #557 on: September 09, 2014, 12:50:10 am »

Gene-seed mutation not decreasing Imperium rep isn't very surprising. Fluff-wise, gene-seed mutation is mostly accepted so long as the mutation is officially logged in Imperial records with the next tithe. You'd get in trouble for intentionally causing mutations or hiding them from outsiders, but for unforeseeable happenstance the Imperium has a decent level of tolerance for mutant Astartes (and ONLY Astartes).

Though that's not absolute, as the Flame Falcons rather suddenly discovered. On the other hand, the Black Dragons have managed to avoid excommunication for a long while now.
Damn you, now I'm stuck browsing 1d4chan. The place has an almost TVTropes-like ability to draw people in .__.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #558 on: September 09, 2014, 02:17:40 am »

1d4chan is likely the best source fo WH40k, since it lacks all the grimdarkness of Lexicum. I kind of enjoy the tought of armless Abaddon.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #559 on: September 09, 2014, 02:27:11 am »

Gene-seed mutation not decreasing Imperium rep isn't very surprising. Fluff-wise, gene-seed mutation is mostly accepted so long as the mutation is officially logged in Imperial records with the next tithe. You'd get in trouble for intentionally causing mutations or hiding them from outsiders, but for unforeseeable happenstance the Imperium has a decent level of tolerance for mutant Astartes (and ONLY Astartes).

Though that's not absolute, as the Flame Falcons rather suddenly discovered. On the other hand, the Black Dragons have managed to avoid excommunication for a long while now.
Damn you, now I'm stuck browsing 1d4chan. The place has an almost TVTropes-like ability to draw people in .__.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #560 on: September 09, 2014, 05:00:23 am »

Damn you, now I'm stuck browsing 1d4chan. The place has an almost TVTropes-like ability to draw people in .__.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #561 on: September 09, 2014, 10:16:47 am »

It's pretty hilarious. I go to Lexicanum when I want canonical information. I go to 1d4Chan for the WARP DUST BABY YEAH! *BLAM* HERESY.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #562 on: September 09, 2014, 04:53:38 pm »

That doesn't explain why my CM only sometimes chooses to attack during raids. (he attacks in only something like 1/5 raids performed by my chapter) Are there some hidden range and weapon cooldown properties being tracked behind the scenes? What about librarians? Experience indicates that they participate in fighting but I've never seen them actually attack anything.

What exactly do bionics and the rosarius do?
No idea why the CM is doing that.  If he only has melee weapons he might not be able to reach the enemy, with other marines in front.

Bionics don't do anything yet.  Rosarius offers additional damage resistance.

So they actually train in parallel all this time :o
My bad then, sorry for bring up an unnecessary discission. :)
That is okay.  It sounds like the parallel training part might be bugged.

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #563 on: September 09, 2014, 05:55:35 pm »

The Tau took a system, i decided to launch a campaign to get rid of them, as they were building a fleet from that sector.

I decided to send my whole fleet and 2 companies of SM loaded in them, without vehicles.
We arrived on the sector that had a Tau fleet floating there, and i was surprised i wasn't presented with the battle screens fight/retreat.
So i guess somehow they were not at war with us, but that wasn't going to stop my campaign, i checked the planets that had 2 with heavy Tau presence and 1 with sparse, the 3 planets had a lot of corruption too.
I noticed the Bombard option wasn't doing anything, so i launched raid on the Sparse world, we destroyed the Tau there without a problem, the Tau diplomat didn't liked that.
Then i did the same on one of the "Heavy" presence world, after a couple of raid i lost all my troops to the Tau, should have taken more than 2 companies i guess as the Bombard wasn't still working.
That loss was a huge one as lots of usable geneseeds were then lost.

I decided to attack the Tau fleet, fortunately despite the loss of most , if not all, escorts , this was a success. And allowed me to finally access the Bombard button.
No more Tau are in that system anymore, the fleet triumphant went back to my homeworld with the critically wounded and survivors of the 2 SM companies.

Now i'm facing a problem :
Company 2 has no more captain, he was lost in the battle on one of the Tau occupied worlds, i have only a standard bearer and a chaplain on the leading troop, but how can i get a new Captain ?

I decided to check the trading to see if i could get more troops to help the losses, the mechanicus traded with me  a lot of Skitarii for a lot of requisition.

What are the Skitarii worth ? According to that they seem to be similar to imperial guards but with better weapon. So i guess nowhere near SM.
But i noticed they're assigned to my HQ , part of the "Strategic Staff" along my Chapter Master.
Is it possible to promote them (there's no promote button for them right now), assuming they gain XP to a company ?

I decided to check with the Sororitas to see if i could get some Sisters of Battle , certainly better than what i read of the Skitarii , but i can't seem to be able to select anything on the Sororitas trade, is it just unimplemented, or do i need something to do before having access ?



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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #564 on: September 09, 2014, 06:17:48 pm »

you need better faction relations to be able to trade the faded-out things.  Best / only way to get this is to gift them artifacts, I find.  So, you realistically can only do max level trades with one or two factions.

I saw someone say that Skitarii take up 10 cargo when you load them on ships, so they are probably tougher than a single marine.  In the fluff, they can be anything from a guardsman to a terminator to a little mini-dreadnaught/tank thing.

The ones that are more like guardsmen, tend to at least have hellguns instead of lasguns.  The more advanced ones are probalby on par with marines but better armed like with lots of plasma weapons, conversion beamers, gravity guns, etc..  Since there is so much variety, I dont think there has ever been an official codex representation of them anywhere.

I was on a AdMech yahoo group a long time back, and someone had kitbashed a mechanicus / skitarii army together.  Put treads on the skitarii and used plague marine stats for the army.  It was convention legal since the kitbashes were based on GW models and all the stats came from a legal codex -- he just changed the descriptions of the various chaos powers and mutations of the plague marines to be in line with mechanicus fluff, but the rules were the same.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #565 on: September 09, 2014, 06:24:27 pm »

Ah thanks, so i need to work more relationship, that's a lot of requisition to spend i guess this relationship thing :D
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« Reply #566 on: September 09, 2014, 06:33:51 pm »

So, did you actually GET some skitarii out of the trade?  And did they show up in your chapter summary screen under one of your HQ units or under one of your companies?

I have tried to buy these guys (as well as sisters of battle and AdMech Land Raiders) before, and they never show up on my unit list.  The trade completes, sometimes a ship even comes to deliver them, but I never see them on my unit list.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #567 on: September 09, 2014, 06:47:28 pm »

Yes, the Skittari are in my Chapter Master HQ unit.
When you go on the Chapter Overview, they don't show up on the HQ section, but if you click on it (to see your Chapter Master), all the Skitarii are there

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #568 on: September 09, 2014, 06:56:13 pm »

Yes, the Skittari are in my Chapter Master HQ unit.
When you go on the Chapter Overview, they don't show up on the HQ section, but if you click on it (to see your Chapter Master), all the Skitarii are there

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Hmm, that did not happen for me.  Maybe I'll try downloading again to see if there are any updates, and start a new chapter.

edit:  did you perform more than one trade during a turn?  I think I did, and that might have been my problem.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #569 on: September 09, 2014, 07:05:31 pm »

I only did the trading with the mechano guys, as the other trades i wanted to do weren't available to me (relationship probably not high enough)
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