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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2790 on: December 10, 2015, 06:43:12 pm »

Duke open-sourced it, but I don't think it's protected by any particular license like GPL.  So, while I am not a lawyer, I think people are free to make closed-source forks of the project, and profit from them.  If they want.
That's the opposite of how it works. If you don't give any explicit permission so permission is not given; authorial copyright is the default. But the 4chan tradition is to ignore that kind of law.
Yeah, that's the default.  But... well, I don't know.  Here's what he said:
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Starting October I will no longer be developing Chapter Master.  In return, I will be open sourcing the project- all X lines of spaghetti code.  I only ask that you be aware that my programming skills have improved over time, and much of the abomination that is the games code is not an indication of my current ability (with GMS, at least).

I feel kinda dickish to be overanalyzing such a statement now though.  I was just curious about the legal status out of boredom, really.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2791 on: December 10, 2015, 07:20:35 pm »

whats up now?  ;D
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2792 on: December 10, 2015, 08:17:17 pm »

The brethren grow restless, for they yearn to bask in the light of His Most Holy Patch Notes.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2015, 08:23:13 pm by nenjin »
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2793 on: December 11, 2015, 09:08:51 am »

There shall be updates. Just need more interesting things to give an update on.

Cleared 400 lines of code yesterday.

Today is a new day.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2794 on: December 11, 2015, 12:30:22 pm »

The brethren grow restless, for they yearn to bask in the light of His Most Holy Patch Notes.

A restless heart is a heart that strays from the emperors will. The Patch Notes light are a privilege, nor a right.

*mumbles* Heretics, all of them...

(Good to hear to hear there is progress).
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2795 on: December 11, 2015, 01:03:53 pm »

Would a person outside of a country in GW's influence be sued for developing this?
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2796 on: December 11, 2015, 01:44:56 pm »

Would a person outside of a country in GW's influence be sued for developing this?
Depends on the laws of the country most likely...
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2797 on: December 11, 2015, 01:46:47 pm »

So is the game supposed to be kind of... deterministic?  Like my sector is swarming with genestealer cults and every single one of them is exactly the same, with the exact same number of dudes and the exact same process when fighting them.  It always takes two turns, the weapons go off in the same order and do the same damage, and no space marines die.

We just nipped a Waaagh in the bud so I'm gonna split my guys off into ten companies and wipe the genestealers out for good, if only so I don't have to do the same fight over and over.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2798 on: December 11, 2015, 04:14:27 pm »

I don't believe it's supposed to be, it just... kind of is right now. It would certainly be nice to have a huge Ork infestation mean either an unholy amount of Grots, a smaller number of better-armed Nobz, a Mek-led force with a large armoured component or something else entirely.

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2799 on: December 11, 2015, 05:59:49 pm »

Would a person outside of a country in GW's influence be sued for developing this?

*sigh*

It's like we've got a Chapter full of fucking fledgling IP lawyers.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2015, 06:26:09 pm by nenjin »
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2800 on: December 11, 2015, 08:11:44 pm »

Would a person outside of a country in GW's influence be sued for developing this?

*sigh*

It's like we've got a Chapter full of fucking fledgling IP lawyers.
Fire the "objection!" missiles.

Edit: The law is not a video game, if you try to find exploits and exceptions, you will either get a mad judge (at you), or perform fraud, or you give the other lawyer a very easy case. A country which does not follow IP or trademark laws (remember, Law chaptermaster, it is not only IP/Copyright you look at, also trademark laws)? Good luck...
« Last Edit: December 11, 2015, 08:14:52 pm by soyweiser »
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2801 on: December 11, 2015, 10:38:38 pm »

Yeah, don't play games like that.  Ultimately GW has more resources to bring to bear against you if they decide to start something over something you made.  Unless you're so far in the right that they have no case at all (and you are absolutely not in this situation) you're not going to win.

The real answer right now is to say fuck the police and do what you want.  If you're developing a warhammer mod and they C&D you, that's what other people anonymously putting up mirrors of your work was for.  "i deleted my shit but i can't stop other people from uploading it"
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2802 on: December 12, 2015, 07:59:53 am »

Indeed dark overlord, I agree.

Ia Ia!

And I think I said it before, but this whole thread can be used in the court as some sort of proof of conspiracy to evade the law.  Perhaps not 100% proof, but posting here discussing the whole law issues, and then going on and evading/breaking the law will not make it easier if GW goes after you. (Not that you can plea ignorance either).

Also I ANAL.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2803 on: December 12, 2015, 08:17:00 am »

Would a person outside of a country in GW's influence be sued for developing this?

*sigh*

It's like we've got a Chapter full of fucking fledgling IP lawyers.
Calm down, mate. I only asked a question.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #2804 on: December 13, 2015, 01:46:52 am »

Lets get the keyboard law out of this discussion eh?  :P

I know its a stretch but.. whats the possible ETA on the new version? cant wait to try out the cleaned up code and game to see what its like.

Also asking again about the devcode, cant find it in the source, but i have no idea how to properly search it.
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