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[tn5421]

im spent and no amount of break time is going t ofix that

[tn5421]

at a minimum im heavily cutting back the # of games im in

if that doesnt help me then im going to quit entirely

haven't really been in a good place emotionally since i started playing

[Tiruin]

im spent and no amount of break time is going t ofix that

It may not change the situation your environment is in, however in my state I can infer that it must be toxic enough to affect your daily life either in stress or through mental frustration.
However the break may help in this instance, where you've time to gather your thoughts and post in a way which will accept other perspectives but will be open in detailing your own. Anger does a good job of clouding up perceptions, and interactions with others, yet is as temporary as how far you focus on the existence of a problem.
In that environment, that problem may be attached to a cause that bugs you quite much passively--you must deal with this yourself :< though advice from others is always helpful, if constructive. But the break does help in gathering your thoughts and re-presentation of how you will act.

[tn5421]

Game is still screwed, though. 

I'm prone to getting angry at games sometimes, it happens, games are the only thing left that still have that power over me.
Their whole " we don't care what you say, your input is not important to us, we have already decided" vibe set me off.  That is almost literally spitting in the face of what mafia should be.  The fact that they're getting away with scumpainting me without presenting a shred of evidence broke through the bit of self control I had. 

This game is simply not winnable when one party shuts down communication with another.

[tn5421]

I don't honestly think I want a discussion with anyone that thinks it's a good idea to lynch without a guilty during mylo, in any case.  That is still literally the dumbest thing I've heard this month.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

I will say, I did read everything you said. And I was not going to lynch you, I though you were scum so I was attempting to pressure you. I would have changed my vote should it have been three people voting you, or the day was going to end. A true lynch is a bad idea, but voting to pressure you was (In my opinion at least)

It is still possible for anyone to be scum.
Also, the scum tells were kind of evidence against you... At least I consider them to be.

I went out of my way to commit a bunch of tells on the list of common tells to see who would try to look past that and who would fall into the trap.

Well, considering it is possible (Read the OP well) for there to not even be a jailkeeper this game I don't think this was a good idea. Why would you set a trap for your teammates tn5421?

[tn5421]

"Setting a trap for your teammates"
You say this as if one of you weren't scum.
It tell me that neither you or world are at all familiar with my meta.
It also suggests that you're putting more stock in those tells than perhaps you should.  Scum have access to them, as well.

I'm less upset with your vote knowing that hammering isn't possible.

[tn5421]

I don't like the fact that you naturally assume I set a trap for my teammates while thinking I'm the most likely scum.  You can't have it both ways.  Either I'm town that set a trap to catch scum or I'm scum trying to look busy.

[tn5421]

Nongame: why in the actual fuck does mobile chrome not have a refresh button next to the back arrow?

[Worldmaster27]

It tell me that neither you or world are at all familiar with my meta.

How could we be familiar with it? This is our (or at least my) first game of mafia with you.

Are we supposed to just take your word that you're jailor?</rhetorical questions> You're just as easily scum not killing any one.

Why should we not put stock into the scum tells?

Let me add onto Cptn's question in the way I think she meant it: "If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"

I don't see how appearing as scum would "catch scum" any more than suspicious town members.

[Tiruin]

I'll be letting the game continue despite 2 votes for a lockdown (and despite that it'd coincide with flavor).
..That, and I'm extremely flexible with the 24-hour no vote thing...seeing as many factors other than those predicted arise regarding its efficiency.
Well wishes to y'all. *hugs* to tn5421, and then everyone else.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

I am not actually familiar with much meta, considering this is my first game ever...
And I don't fully trust Worldmaster, but I consider him the least scummy.

I am aware scum has access to them, but they are common for a reason. If no one was doing them this game, then I would focus on other things.
Also, yeah. Worldmaster explains it better then me.
"If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"
The scum tells are what makes me think you are scum. Is you were faking them, then you had me fooled. I was focusing on you, because you seemed the most scummy.

[tn5421]

It tell me that neither you or world are at all familiar with my meta.

How could we be familiar with it? This is our (or at least my) first game of mafia with you.

Are we supposed to just take your word that you're jailor?</rhetorical questions> You're just as easily scum not killing any one.

Why should we not put stock into the scum tells?

Let me add onto Cptn's question in the way I think she meant it: "If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"

I don't see how appearing as scum would "catch scum" any more than suspicious town members.

Point 1: it's linked in my signature, you can peruse all of my mafiascum games with ease.
Point 2: I don't seem to recall you ever providing any evidence that I am lying.  Something you should consider if you are going to continue to imply that I'm a liar.
Point 3: Because they are accessible to all players, anyone who wishes to avoid commuting them will do so.
Point 4: will answer in my reply to Cptn.  You'll have to wait, typing on mobile is a pain.
Point 5: It can bait scum into jumping on by making starting a wagon appear "safe".

[tn5421]

I am not actually familiar with much meta, considering this is my first game ever...
And I don't fully trust Worldmaster, but I consider him the least scummy.

I am aware scum has access to them, but they are common for a reason. If no one was doing them this game, then I would focus on other things.
Also, yeah. Worldmaster explains it better then me.
"If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"
The scum tells are what makes me think you are scum. Is you were faking them, then you had me fooled. I was focusing on you, because you seemed the most scummy.

Point 1: my sig links to my wiki page which has links to a bunch of games I've completed as both alignments.
Point 2: You believe that I would understand the implied " if you're town"?  Fair enough.  Even if world came up with it for you.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

Well, you have believed I would understand things I didn't before in this game...
And you didn't actually answer the question, unless you answered it in point five of World's message, making point four useless.
And if point five is the answer, it probably wasn't the best strategy for a beginners game.

Quick question, do you know who Alleecat blocked the first nights?