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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #330 on: September 16, 2014, 06:46:58 am »

Okay, so the way I see it is:

Worldmaster and me are town.

tn5421 seems extremely scummy, and has done about half of the list on common scum tells in the OP. She is using the claim of jailkeeper to protect her from any attempt to attack her, but not actually making defences. Also, ragequitting the scum is a really dumb move here. Why would you even try that? The scum would win, because you can't protect everyone. If you know who they are like you say, kill them!

Silthuri is lurking. Seriously, it's been almost a week since your last post, and that was only because I coloured your name blue. "Ah! Schoolwork!" is not a real excuse. You could spend five minutes posting something, you are online quite a bit! Or weekends! Should we replace you? It's a bit late now, but seriously?

All I have to do is use my combined roleblock/protect on the scum each night until THEY ragequit in frustration or out themselves with their behavior.  I don't think it will take very long...if you're willing to follow my plan.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #331 on: September 16, 2014, 07:18:14 am »

Or, you used the block on someone who was attacked by the scum, or you are scum and didn't use your night kill so you looked like a jailkeeper.

Your entire defence is "I'm a jailkeeper, don't kill me"
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #332 on: September 16, 2014, 07:28:23 am »

Lynching a claimed PR when there are no counterclaims is bad.

That's why I want to no-lynch today, so that if I'm wrong its not super damaging to town.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #333 on: September 16, 2014, 07:29:29 am »

The fact of the matter is that what you're doing is suboptimal, please stop.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #334 on: September 16, 2014, 08:30:30 am »

tn5421 is right about the technical correct response.  I'm a bit concerned with their roleclaim, but right now the best response is indeed no lynch.

This is my IC voice.  Normally, unless there is a clear mafia member, MYLO usually ends in a no lynch in BM's and NSBM's.  Any sort of near-mountainous setup has only one kill a night, and as such waiting one night for the scum to kill someone else narrows down to options of who it could be.  However, this is also a key time for the scum, as they use their day and night games to obfuscate their actions and trick the town into lynching a townie.  As such, the town must remain ever-vigilant and not take anything for granted.

On roleclaims and BM's: roleclaims in BM's tend to come at the end of the game, when they are most potent.  However, always take unproven ones with a grain of salt: that mafia have a rolecop, and it is quite possible to fakeclaim if you know that a role does not exist in the game.

Never, ever take for granted that someone is confirmed townie unless they have been inspected by a cop.  Possibly one of the best strategies in near-mountainous is to set themselves up in a position where everyone believes them to be townie, as it becomes very difficult to get them lynched at that point even if you do suspect them.  I've seen this trick used by scum, both me and others, to cruise through to the end of the game, with various degrees of success.

More IC advise coming later.

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #335 on: September 16, 2014, 01:38:24 pm »

Cptn, let me put it like this.

If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #336 on: September 16, 2014, 03:36:34 pm »

Well, if there's a no-lynch, the scum could just choose not to NK anybody so that a certain somebody can keep up the claim that they are the jailor.

4mask: What will you think if there is not a kill tonight? Will you think that tn5's claim is justified or that the mafia is pulling our leg?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #337 on: September 16, 2014, 03:45:19 pm »

@Worldmaster: They will be forced to kill once every 3 or 4 nights or the mod will decide that they lose automatically for not playing to their wincon.

I'm more than happy to force that technical win for town if that's what it takes.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #338 on: September 16, 2014, 05:19:32 pm »

The fact that there was not a kill in the same night I targeted someone should tell you that either I'm lying (which I have no reason to do) or that I'm telling the truth and that I either blocked scum or scum decided to nokill.

If you are scum, you have every reason to lie.
Tn5421,  what is the reason you won't tell us who you blocked?

Cptn, let me put it like this.

If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
Are you talking about my town read about you? Or my actual town read? Can someone explain this please?
If you die, I become a confirmed town? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying to me...
And the only way I could be confirmed town (In game) is if a cop looked at me, and our cop is dead. Do you mean the game ends if you die?


Tiruin, can the scum rolecop use a night kill and a search in one night?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #339 on: September 16, 2014, 06:51:30 pm »

I'm referring to your strongest townread other than yourself.
The fact that there was not a kill in the same night I targeted someone should tell you that either I'm lying (which I have no reason to do) or that I'm telling the truth and that I either blocked scum or scum decided to nokill.

If you are scum, you have every reason to lie.
Tn5421,  what is the reason you won't tell us who you blocked?

Cptn, let me put it like this.

If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
Are you talking about my town read about you? Or my actual town read? Can someone explain this please?
If you die, I become a confirmed town? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying to me...
And the only way I could be confirmed town (In game) is if a cop looked at me, and our cop is dead. Do you mean the game ends if you die?


Tiruin, can the scum rolecop use a night kill and a search in one night?

You're REALLY stretching here.

I'm blocking World tonight, which clears him if I die.

Don't be so obtuse, I all but stated he was the person I've been blocking.  I'm really starting to think that you're the likeliest scum here Cptn.

Hammer the nolynch already so we can see the truth.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #340 on: September 16, 2014, 06:53:52 pm »

You only have one townread that isn't yourself and that's World, but please pretend im talking about 'clearing' you because the game will be over.

Like, did you drop some fucking acid before you logged in?

You're REALLY deluded at this point, but I guess I can ask you a question.

Why would I be interested in having a townie cleared before LYLO in the event of my death?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #341 on: September 16, 2014, 07:19:22 pm »

tn5:
If you think I'm scum, FoS me. Unless you don't want to seem suspicious if I'm killed and end up being town...

And how so is she deluded? Why does she seem more scummy than yourself? When did you state that you were supposedly blocking me?

One townread besides herself is to be expected. There's four of us, and one scum. It would be smart to have more than one suspect.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #342 on: September 16, 2014, 10:14:13 pm »

You only have one townread that isn't yourself and that's World, but please pretend im talking about 'clearing' you because the game will be over.

Like, did you drop some fucking acid before you logged in?

You're REALLY deluded at this point, but I guess I can ask you a question.

Why would I be interested in having a townie cleared before LYLO in the event of my death?

Are you seriously attacking me because I'm sick and tired and can't think straight?
Also, not everyone understands things the same way you do. Worldmaster and I both didn't get it. No need to freak out at me!
You need to remember this is a beginner game. I haven't played mafia before, and I think differently from someone who has.

But now that you've explained it, I see what you mean. Talking about who I see as town. That makes sense.


If you were a jailkeeper, to win the game. If you were a scum, to say Worldmaster was the scum when no one dies tonight.
Also, you are changing your story again. Before you said you wanted to troll the scum until they ragequit, and now you say you want to sacrifice yourself to win the game.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #343 on: September 16, 2014, 10:28:27 pm »

I was considering changing my vote, but it does no harm where it's at. The personal attacks didn't help either.

You could have put some context in that message as well. For example, a quote. Something! It's just kind of out of the blue.
Cptn, let me put it like this.
If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D4: Awaken
« Reply #344 on: September 17, 2014, 03:08:11 am »

Tiruin, can the scum rolecop use a night kill and a search in one night?
In this game? Yes. In the past games I've BM'd? No--mostly because I thought of the matter as 'training as if regular game', wherein the scumteam would be planning in advance how to efficiently conserve the powers at hand.
Why I said yes here is...pretty much because in the BM's I've played in, the mods allowed it (ie Toaster), also I've discovered that there's an actual difference here.
In the BM, the roles are all known.
In a regular game, the roles are pretty much randomized (for scum). Unless explicitly mentioned, which is the case here.
That kind of scenario (Only_Rolecop using both powers) are still treated as if they are made by one person, however. They just have both abilities of rolecop//factional NK.




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