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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | Mafia Victory  (Read 70304 times)

Worldmaster27

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D1 has begun.
« Reply #150 on: August 25, 2014, 03:40:31 pm »

AlleeCat:
Worldmaster: Say it's D3 and you're the last scum left. One of the two towns left is sure it's you, but the other is still on the fence. How would you try to convince them to vote for the other one?
It would depend on the way I had played up until that point, and how the other two have been playing. If the accuser has been lurking or could be seen as active lurking, or had some evidence of bandwagoning in the past or any other behaviors that could be interpreted as scummy then I'd exploit that as much as possible. I'd also try to play off any concerns the guy on the fence had before about the accuser or his/her's hesitation to lynch fellow town. I'd also try to exploit any weak points in the accuser's argument and try to turn them into something that makes the accuser seem scummy. Mostly just playing off the areas where s/he's unsure about, and breaking down my oppenent's argument wherever possible. Taking advantage of any questionable actions in the past, i.e. erratic behavior, would also be a big focus.

Now, how would you respond if you were the accuser and the remaining mafia constructed a good argument against you and the guy on the fence was wavering and was considering that you were mafia more and more?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D1 has begun.
« Reply #151 on: August 25, 2014, 05:52:47 pm »

Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.
Nerjin and Slithuri play with you (and you don't know if they are scum or not). I coach the scum players. I will rarely post in the actual thread, and hopefully this will be my last post in-thread until the game is over.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D1 has begun.
« Reply #152 on: August 25, 2014, 06:36:52 pm »

Silthuri:
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?
RL sapping my time. College more specifically. It's only week two of the semester and work is already piling up. So no. I'm not lurking. I'm just smothered in text books.  :P

I also want to point out in your posts like Cptn. you have been very passive. While Cptn. has inexperience to explain that, you do not. You're only piece of proactivity was to FoS me.
I have a habit of reserving my vote, only voting when I think someone's genuinely scummy. I handle my vote with care and I hadn't had the time to think your actions through. I am also a very passive player in mafia.

Both Darkstar and Nerjin saw fit to actually vote me. Darkstar voted before you. You possibly FoSed me to seem like you were doing something but not actually bandwagoning. You even promised to try and put questions in your post before that.
I'll try to post a few questions sometime tomorrow.
I was undecided as to whether it was all a scum ploy or if you genuinely thought Allee was scummy. As I've said, I tend to use my vote only when I really think someone's worth lynching. If I'm unsure, I usually will not vote.

I said I'd try. Not that I would. I'm known for not even asking RVS questions in the first place. I'm more the type to observe. And adding oodles of homework and such doesn't help.
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My Name is Immaterial

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« Reply #153 on: August 25, 2014, 06:48:28 pm »

Immaterial:
Why are you waiting for someone to prod? Conduct something yourself if you're waiting.
I just dont have the drive to start something right now.

Tiruin

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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D1 has begun.
« Reply #154 on: August 25, 2014, 11:52:31 pm »

Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.
Nerjin and Slithuri play with you (and you don't know if they are scum or not). I coach the scum players. I will rarely post in the actual thread, and hopefully this will be my last post in-thread until the game is over.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | D1 has begun.
« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2014, 01:06:15 am »

Well, this is rather a pickle. I have no idea who to vote for.

TheDarkStar: It's D2 and Comrade claims to be the police officer and says they found you scum during the night. You successfully defend yourself, but the next day, that player is dead (just a townie) and the town gets suspicious with you. How do you defend?

MNiI Are you always this indecisive on D1?

Comrade: Who do you think is the most suspicious right now and why?

Cptn: It's D3, and there is only one scum left. TheDarkStar claims they are the cop and say that Slithuri is the last remaining scum. But Slithuri's behaviour so far has been nothing but town-friendly so far. How do you react?
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« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2014, 01:19:04 am »

MNiI Are you always this indecisive on D1?
Yes. It's always such a conundrum for me.

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« Reply #157 on: August 26, 2014, 04:04:01 am »

Krevsin:
Comrade: Who do you think is the most suspicious right now and why?
I think Immaterial is the most scummy player. There was that completely random vote at the start. No questions, just a vote and a thank you to random.org. While probably just a mistake on an account of inexperience, I do attach a little scumminess to this. Then there was when he voted Allee, when Nerjin and DarkStar opposed it he withdrew his vote. While he said it was for consideration but did not reveal his conclusion until prompted by me. This may indicate a hope his vote might be overlooked or that he could be a scum who dislikes unpopularity. There is now also his failure to start a case. He states he can't find the drive for it but it may just be that he can't spot anything another doesn't put in front because he is scum.

Silthuri:
In the words of a man wiser than me.
You not doing anything does not help town. You know what happens when someone lurks until the last couple of days? People will vote to lynch them. If you are town, then that means your laziness now will screw town over in the future. Surely there is SOMETHING you want to ask other people. Even if it's a followup to someone else's question.
Mind you the original advice is to Cptn. I also removed the bits about being new.

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« Reply #158 on: August 26, 2014, 07:01:10 am »

Sorry for the double post.

But so close to the lynch deadline which is about an hour from now. We are currently at a deadlock. To break the deadlock I am going to vote Immaterial. The reasons for my vote are the following:

1. Completely random vote at the start with nothing to compliment it. (Almost certainly inexperience but you never know)
2. Your Allee voting. You were on it rather quickly but when it was shown to be unpopular you got off. (While you claim you are susceptible to peer pressure it could just make you particularly sensitive as scum)
3. You're failure to even try and start a case. Instead you wanted jump onto another, it seems like you want to bandwagon.

Now, I realise that this isn't particularly strong. But there is a bit in the OP that says we should D1 lynch.

But saying that I would prefer a stronger case and would need more time for it. I would like an Extension.

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« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2014, 08:39:48 am »

Bloop!

D1 has ended! :O

Please wait for printing of finalized documents.
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« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2014, 10:35:51 am »

Sorry about this. I need a replacement. I'm going back to school tomorrow and my brother just broke my laptop. I have no idea when it will be fixed. The shared computer from which I am now posting is restricted during school times due to the games on it. I am very sorry about this. But it's probably a good thing as I would get buried under work and fall out because of that. Again, I apologise. Good luck to you all and have fun. McDonald looks like you get to play.

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« Reply #161 on: August 26, 2014, 11:10:42 am »

Well, if I'm still alive for D2, I'll establish my innocence.

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« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2014, 11:47:57 am »

Oh, cool. Sorry about your laptop though.
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« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2014, 11:51:41 am »

Sorry!
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My Name is Immaterial

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« Reply #164 on: August 26, 2014, 12:05:55 pm »

Simply put, I don't know. I felt like I could defend myself against Comrade's arguements. They were really well structured.
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