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TheDarkStar

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« Reply #135 on: August 24, 2014, 09:18:07 pm »

Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?

I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.

Even if we're busy asking questions, you should, too. You probably have a slightly different perspective, and we want to hear that.

What do you think of the AlleeCat situation so far? Who seems scummy to you?
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« Reply #136 on: August 24, 2014, 10:18:02 pm »

I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.

This is not an excuse. You not doing anything does not help town. You know what happens when someone lurks until the last couple of days? People will vote to lynch them. If you are town, then that means your laziness now will screw town over in the future. I know it can seem hard to just get in there on your first go. Toady knows I didn't [or maybe he doesn't... I shall PM him the details later. I'll let you guys know how it goes].

If you're worried about not having a different perspective: Don't. Surely there is SOMETHING you want to ask other people. Even if it's a followup to someone else's question. Just do your best. You might not do well. It's entirely possible you'll fuck up badly. But if you don't try you won't get better. We're all friends here. Everyone started off as a flailing idiot. Especially me. Trust me, you'll do fine. Ask soome questions.
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« Reply #137 on: August 24, 2014, 11:00:23 pm »

Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?

I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.

Even if we're busy asking questions, you should, too. You probably have a slightly different perspective, and we want to hear that.

What do you think of the AlleeCat situation so far? Who seems scummy to you?
My Name is Immaterial is the scummy looking one here. He says he was prodding, but it seems more like bandwagoning to me. Then he says he needs to sleep on it, then that he would be better off not voting at all. That is a big turn around, and is suspicious.
Then saying he is easily swayed by peer pressure, when at first he said he was prodding.
((Should I be putting in the quotes here?))

Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to ask more questions now.
Nerjin, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
Comrade Shamrock, who do you think the scum are most likely to kill night one this game?
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« Reply #138 on: August 25, 2014, 01:27:18 am »

Allee:
And how willing was I to lynch you over that overreaction? I'm not saying you wouldn't have a chance to defend yourself. But, I'm saying some err (me included) on the side of caution and will lynch just to be sure.
Usually when you vote for someone to be lynched, it means you're willing to lynch them.
Not neccessarily. From what I've read of some older games, voting for someone can be used to apply pressure to them just to see how they react. Of course, one can never tell whether the accuser was merely swayed by the accused's argument or whether such a tactic has been employed.

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« Reply #139 on: August 25, 2014, 03:09:06 am »

This surgery honestly came at a very inopportune time. I want to be more active in the game and ask questions of others, but the splint makes it hard to type and the drugs make it hard to think up questions.
That said, I'm going to give it a shot, and I'm going to ask the person I don't think we've heard that much from:
Worldmaster: Say it's D3 and you're the last scum left. One of the two towns left is sure it's you, but the other is still on the fence. How would you try to convince them to vote for the other one?

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« Reply #140 on: August 25, 2014, 06:20:54 am »

Cptn:
I'd be inclined to say the ICs. They are the most obvious targets. But for that reason they might not be targeted. Of course that hinges on the ICs not being the scum. Also anyone who makes it seem like they've got a power role is probably going to die.

Silthuri:
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?

Nerjin:
Does Silthuri usually play with so little posts?

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« Reply #141 on: August 25, 2014, 08:44:04 am »

Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?

I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.

Even if we're busy asking questions, you should, too. You probably have a slightly different perspective, and we want to hear that.

What do you think of the AlleeCat situation so far? Who seems scummy to you?
My Name is Immaterial is the scummy looking one here. He says he was prodding, but it seems more like bandwagoning to me. Then he says he needs to sleep on it, then that he would be better off not voting at all. That is a big turn around, and is suspicious.
Then saying he is easily swayed by peer pressure, when at first he said he was prodding.
((Should I be putting in the quotes here?))

Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to ask more questions now.
Nerjin, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
Comrade Shamrock, who do you think the scum are most likely to kill night one this game?

Captain:
Why did you list a bunch of suspicious things about MNiI but not vote him or ask him any questions? It looks like you're noting things so that you don't seem scum, but not voting so that people don't put pressure on you (or maybe so that you're not voting your scumbuddy, but that's less likely). Also, yes, it's good to use quotes.
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« Reply #142 on: August 25, 2014, 11:25:00 am »

*snip*

Captain:
Why did you list a bunch of suspicious things about MNiI but not vote him or ask him any questions? It looks like you're noting things so that you don't seem scum, but not voting so that people don't put pressure on you (or maybe so that you're not voting your scumbuddy, but that's less likely). Also, yes, it's good to use quotes.
Sorry, I was really tired last night because I just got back from a trip, and so I wanted to get some sleep before making a vote. (Also I kind of forgot I could vote for people, not sleeping is bad).
Now that I've slept, My Name is Immaterial, I think you are a scum.

TheDarkStar, if you were the jailkeeper, who would you protect/block tonight?
My Name is Immaterial, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
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« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2014, 11:26:55 am »

*snip*

Captain:
Why did you list a bunch of suspicious things about MNiI but not vote him or ask him any questions? It looks like you're noting things so that you don't seem scum, but not voting so that people don't put pressure on you (or maybe so that you're not voting your scumbuddy, but that's less likely). Also, yes, it's good to use quotes.
Sorry, I was really tired last night because I just got back from a trip, and so I wanted to get some sleep before making a vote. (Also I kind of forgot I could vote for people, not sleeping is bad).
Now that I've slept, My Name is Immaterial, I think you are a scum.

TheDarkStar, if you were the jailkeeper, who would you protect/block tonight?

Fair enough, Unvote.

I'd protect Nerjin, since he's an active IC and likely to die.
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« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2014, 01:07:44 pm »

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Nerjin, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
Comrade Shamrock, who do you think the scum are most likely to kill night one this game?

Never ask these questions. The first one sets me up to be the fall guy when scum kill that guy and the second one can only be answered vaguely and really provides no answers.

That being said, I'll humor you. I would kill whoever has posted least. Low activity makes games boring. I don't like boring games. A win only counts if there is a chance to lose. Remember that children.

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Silthuri:
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?

Nerjin:
Does Silthuri usually play with so little posts?

Life happens and it's monday. Weekends don't count towards the time limit because people are busy during them.

As for you question: I don't know. I don't usually play with Silthuri.
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« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2014, 01:18:06 pm »

Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.

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« Reply #146 on: August 25, 2014, 01:21:39 pm »

Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.

Yeah, they are playing. They could be anyone, that's why they have the special coloured text.
Nerjin said, he could be scum, just like anyone. I'm not sure how it works with Persus though, given the special scum chat...
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« Reply #147 on: August 25, 2014, 01:23:17 pm »

Me and Silthuri are players. Persus is essentially a coach who just watches and says stuff every now and again. Me and Silthuri can be any alignment and can be lynched or night killed accordingly. Persus has no alignment, cannot be interacted with, smells nice works with the scum team, and basically just gives advice.
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« Reply #148 on: August 25, 2014, 02:26:12 pm »

My Name is Immaterial, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
At this stage in the game, I don't see any benefit from killing a specific player. The layers of bluff and double bluffs that exist around such a choice are too inpenetrable to handle. I would use Random.org. If there's no method to my madness, there are no leads.

I am currently lurking a little. I'm waiting for something to jump on and prod.

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« Reply #149 on: August 25, 2014, 03:19:12 pm »

Immaterial:
Why are you waiting for someone to prod? Conduct something yourself if you're waiting.

Silthuri:
I am putting up new observations but would still like an answer from you.
Silthuri:
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?
I also want to point out in your posts like Cptn. you have been very passive. While Cptn. has inexperience to explain that, you do not. You're only piece of proactivity was to FoS me.
ICs: What do you think of these accusations? Are they just overractions to a figure of speech, or a mafia newb slip-up?

I'm more inclined to believe it's a figure of speech, implying that she thought she'd be branded a lurker and lynched for missing a day. I also feel that Comrade Shamrock is the one who made it a big deal by blowing a figure of speech way out of proportion.

Keep in mind that many players take mafia extremely seriously. Jokes that seem incredibly obvious and funny will not be obvious or funny to others. I do suggest using joke tags or a  :P, but sometimes even they can't block the conspiracy theories that people cook up.
Both Darkstar and Nerjin saw fit to actually vote me. Darkstar voted before you. You possibly FoSed me to seem like you were doing something but not actually bandwagoning. You even promised to try and put questions in your post before that.
I'll try to post a few questions sometime tomorrow.
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