Top notch flavor Tiruin, top notch. You have learned well.
Alright children. I’ve been gone for quite some time. I apologize but I’ve been busy. It happens, but I still apologize. Anyways, let’s talk to people and give them helps. Remember, I am also a player so you should analyze
everything I say for any slips in logic. That said I will try to win. However text in
lime green or
green is my IC talk.
That means anything I say in them are my honest professional advice. This will not be used to mislead you. That being said let’s get started!
I think the better question is why she had a gun...
Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
Remain calm my friend. He's just joking around. I know it's scary your first time in a BM. I know I panicked when I was under suspicion. It's important to remember that we will all face suspicion in the course of the game. Panic will not save you however. What does save you is calm and even response to someone being suspicious of you.
That being said, what you did here feels rather OMGUSy I'm afraid. You should NEVER state suspicion of someone because they've stated the same of you. To handle this... er... Lemme put on the green text.
The way to handle this is to examine his case, if any, and see if it is strong. If it's a weak case, point out the flaws in it. If it's a strong case, work to address the points in a calm manner. It's scary, I know, but you can do it!Nerjin:
What are you both respectively looking out for when you look for scum? Is it hard for you to differentiate between newbie flailing and scum slipups, or is it obvious?
Faulty logic and lazy play. It is, actually, rather difficult usually. But then again, finding scum is hard amongst any player base. For various reasons.
Immaterial, random lynching is a bad idea, because we have a higher risk of killing our own.
That's true, but, if you read Bookthras's rant on D1 lynches, you'd know that its a risk worth taking.
Wrong actually. Simply lynching someone randomly on Day 1 gives you nothing but their role. This doesn’t help town. Instead you should ask questions. Prod at people and then lynch the person you view as most scummy. Then they flip and you get their role AND how other people hunted them. Specifically, it gives you a case to pursue Day 2. Mafia is a game of logic. Not a game of dice.I was pointing at MNiI not Shamrock, and again, I reacted that way not out of fear, but because I found it very suspicious that he would accuse me of having a gun or whatever he meant by that "joke," that, by the way, had no real context, either.
No real context? What are you talking about?AlleeCat:
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?
I think the better question is why she had a gun...
I was expanding on Comrade Shamrock's joke. (This was a joke, right?)
This sounds like OMGUS behavior, Alleecat.
This is not OMGUS. She did not vote you for no reason. She stated she found what you said suspicious. There is a mile of difference between the two Immaterial.
Nerjin
Is there any less common scumtells not covered in the OP to help us find scum? I'd like to be prepared in case we have IC scummery.
None particularly spring to mind at the moment I’m afraid. Essentially you should always be looking for people who seem to be coasting by, appear to have knowledge they shouldn’t have, or who are pursuing lynches without any real substance behind them.DarkStar:
Don't forget my question.
In cases like this you should quote the question so that they can find it easily.
Nerjin:
You are an IC in this game, you were on earlier at 17:37. You also made a large post at 05:07. Yet you have not contributed to this game. The biggest killer of beginner games is inactivity as stated in the OP. Yet as one the experienced players who are meant to be showing us how to play, you sit idle.
This is true. You'll have to deal with it I'm afraid. I have other games, college, and work. It sucks, but I'm doing my best to be here for you kids. But it would be nice if you were a bit kinder about it.
AlleeCat:
Oh, getting very defensive. ... [W]hy are you worried? This is about your response to Immaterial btw.{Nerjin Says: Quote the post in question} I took that up as humour and so it seems very suspicious that you're getting uppity at that and so quickly too. Especially since you seem to be OMGUS'ing Immaterial. Accusing him of being suspicious for making a joke. (At least, I think it was a joke)
AlleeCat until further notice, you are my vote.
I would like to point out that she is not OMGUSing anyone. Her vote remains unused. She stated suspicion. It is OMGUS-esque, but not nearly the same thing. This is a rather weak pressure vote m'boy.
Allee:
I think the better question is why she had a gun...
Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
These to me indicate worry. There is no way he could have investigated you. You then go to say you are a normal townie with the last I checked part as if for emphasis. This seems to me like he struck a nerve and you exploded. This make it seem very much like you are scum.
... Are you serious? I'm afraid to say this is rather weak... People type things oddly sometimes. Oh, and that's not exploding. Check slighly below for an example of low-key exploding.
... Don't say your lack of posts, Nerjin has less than 1, which is to say none.
Oh piss off. I was busy.
Nerjin:
In your opinion, what is it that is most often used as a scumtell when it really isn't?
I have no idea. Nothing is a scum tell 100% of the time. There are things that are often viewed as scumtells. I suppose if I
HAD to pick one I would say... Miller claims. But that's a little advanced.
I don’t believe you’ve posted. Have I missed it?
I guess I should question someone?
AleeCat what is your favourite colour?
This is not an acceptable line of questioning. It yields no results. The questions you ask should be something along the lines of “How would you react in situation X? What is Y?” This way you learn something about the person you are playing with and their general frame of mind.
I would like to hear more from you. So far you seem okay. Post more.
ICs: What do you think of these accusations? Are they just overractions to a figure of speech, or a mafia newb slip-up?
I think the three key players [Immaterial, Comrade, and Allee] are all seperate instances of this.
Allee is getting railed on this far harder than she deserves. She panicked a little at the accusation [a lot of first time players do] and I feel like she's handling it rather well since then.
Immaterial strikes me as someone who is simply going with what he thinks is right based on his limited experience with forum mafia. His case is weak, but so are all day 1 cases I find. I think he's wrong, but he is doing what he feels is right I'm sure.
Comrade seems to be trying to inflate this into a lynch. I would like to hear more about why a simple misunderstanding deserves a lynch.
Note that this is NOT in your spoiler. That's because it involves my vote. Always keep your vote out of spoilers and quotes.
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