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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia XLIX: The Journalist Underground | Mafia Victory  (Read 70180 times)

TheDarkStar

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« Reply #120 on: August 24, 2014, 01:41:20 pm »

DarkStar:
Who, besides me, do you have on your list of likely scum?

As you pointed out, MNiI's voting is slightly worrying, since he removed his vote as soon as there was pressure on him for it. AlleeCat is also slightly suspicious, since there is some overreaction, but it's not as bad. I'm not really ready for a full list of reads, since several people have barely contributed so far.
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My Name is Immaterial

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« Reply #121 on: August 24, 2014, 01:43:36 pm »

I'm afraid that I'm easily swayed by peer pressure. It's something I'm trying to work on.

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« Reply #122 on: August 24, 2014, 01:49:54 pm »

AlleeCat: I was referring to your not answering questions despite your posts being quite soon after them. There are two instances off the top of my head:
AlleeCat: Thank you for joining us, I hope you heal quickly. Now, as for the question: If you were a power role and everyone was convinced you were mafia, how would you try to get out of the situation?
And, soon after this post
AlleeCat:
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?
Well, it's just that I know lurking is a big killer in BMs. I just don't want to get lynched on Day 1 of my first Mafia game.

I think the better question is why she had a gun...
Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
with a distinct lack of an answer to my question. You did respond to my question soon enough so that was fine. However, the following is what peaked my interest.
AleeCat: The cop finds out that TheDarkStar is scum, and TheDarkStar reacts by claiming you are his scumbuddy. How do you defend yourself?
Granted, you could have just missed this but you posted
I reread my post and discovered that it did come off as a little jumpy. I didn't mean it that way. The fact was that I didn't know how investigations were working and whether or not he was trying to reveal himself and pin me as a suspect. This combined with my being loopy on pain meds and having very poor word choice because of that did not make for a very good post, I'm afraid.
after about twenty minutes of inactivity in the thread. There was not much else to distract you from the question that you couldn't have read in 5 minutes, much less 20.
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« Reply #123 on: August 24, 2014, 02:12:41 pm »

AlleeCat: Thank you for joining us, I hope you heal quickly. Now, as for the question: If you were a power role and everyone was convinced you were mafia, how would you try to get out of the situation?
I distinctly remember answering this one. The problem is that a lot of times people post questions while I'm typing a reply to something else. Instead of trying to answer the newly posted question in the same post, I try to get the current post out ASAP and then read over the other question(s) and reply to them in a second post. This is mainly due to me effectively having one arm for the purposes of typing.
In the case of your other question, however, I honestly didn't see it. I remember seeing that the rest of your post was you responding to an IC so I must've figured it wasn't important and skipped over it. I'll answer it now for you.

AleeCat: The cop finds out that TheDarkStar is scum, and TheDarkStar reacts by claiming you are his scumbuddy. How do you defend yourself?
I would point out that there are only two reasons TheDarkStar would try to sell out his scumbuddy. Either he's just being a dick to his teammate by throwing them under the bus and making them lose, or he's trying to take a town down with him by claiming someone else. Either way, it's not a very good move, since the former would ensure a town victory and the latter is pretty easy to see through. 

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« Reply #124 on: August 24, 2014, 02:30:15 pm »

Immaterial:
Are you just providing yourself an excuse to vote at who seems easiest?

DarkStar:
Fair enough. Do you think Immaterial is providing an excuse or is it genuine?

Allee:
Look at the situation you just presented. There is another line of thinking to that. He could be actually be outing his partner but thinks the town won't lynch the partner because he believes they'll think it's a plan to lynch town. This is what WIFOM is. The town will probably lynch out of caution.

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« Reply #125 on: August 24, 2014, 02:33:14 pm »

Allee:
Look at the situation you just presented. There is another line of thinking to that. He could be actually be outing his partner but thinks the town won't lynch the partner because he believes they'll think it's a plan to lynch town. This is what WIFOM is. The town will probably lynch out of caution.
Sorry, did not explain WIFOM properly. It is a circular argument of logic stemming from the belief that's what he wants me to believe.

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« Reply #126 on: August 24, 2014, 02:38:56 pm »

These situations don't happen in a vacuum, though. they're not going to lynch just because of this one incident. They're going to put that together with the rest of the day's evidence andthen make a decision. Nobody just goes "OK so you've been named as an accomplice and you get one chance to defend yourself before we lynch you immediately no questions asked"

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« Reply #127 on: August 24, 2014, 02:41:52 pm »

Immaterial:
Are you just providing yourself an excuse to vote at who seems easiest?
I don't understand the question.

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« Reply #128 on: August 24, 2014, 02:52:17 pm »

Allee:
And how willing was I to lynch you over that overreaction? I'm not saying you wouldn't have a chance to defend yourself. But, I'm saying some err (me included) on the side of caution and will lynch just to be sure.

Immaterial:
I was asking if you are lying about being susceptible to peer pressure thing to give yourself a way to explain voting with the crowd, bandwagoning and the like. But, I think you are genuine for not understanding the question.

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« Reply #129 on: August 24, 2014, 02:54:57 pm »

Immaterial:
I was asking if you are lying about being susceptible to peer pressure thing to give yourself a way to explain voting with the crowd, bandwagoning and the like. But, I think you are genuine for not understanding the question.
No.
What were you expecting me to say?

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« Reply #131 on: August 24, 2014, 03:12:12 pm »

DarkStar:
Fair enough. Do you think Immaterial is providing an excuse or is it genuine?

I can't tell yet, but it is slightly worrying - going with what everyone else says to avoid having to scumhunt your allies is a common mafia play. Here's a question to you: Why did you ask him a question that wouldn't actually get you anything (it's not like he would admit that he was lying if he was scum).

Allee:
Look at the situation you just presented. There is another line of thinking to that. He could be actually be outing his partner but thinks the town won't lynch the partner because he believes they'll think it's a plan to lynch town. This is what WIFOM is. The town will probably lynch out of caution.

Just a note about this situation: It wouldn't actually happen. In mafia here, directly incriminating someone as a fellow mafia member is very highly frowned on - you're 1. revealing yourself, and 2. revealing your ally. If you want to do something similar without getting people mad at you for how you played, though, you can deliberately make it look like you're working with someone. Just don't go "I'm scum, and so is this guy!".

The ICs can probably say it better than I can, though.
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« Reply #132 on: August 24, 2014, 04:13:45 pm »

DarkStar:
The question I asked Immaterial was to see if he was being sincere about being susceptible to peer pressure. It wasn't his worded answer really that I was looking for but his reaction.  If he was lying about it, I was expecting him to pick at the question instead of answering it.

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« Reply #133 on: August 24, 2014, 06:45:18 pm »

Allee:
And how willing was I to lynch you over that overreaction? I'm not saying you wouldn't have a chance to defend yourself. But, I'm saying some err (me included) on the side of caution and will lynch just to be sure.
Usually when you vote for someone to be lynched, it means you're willing to lynch them.

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« Reply #134 on: August 24, 2014, 08:32:49 pm »

Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?

I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.
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