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[dudlol]

As the title, allow specification of quality for manager orders. This wouldn't guarantee the quality on the first try, but would instead continue making orders until the requested number of items of the specified quality are created. Player micromanagement may be required if you'd somehow like to order low quality items and have only highly skilled craftsdwarves, unless some mechanic could be added to only allow dwarves who can possibly create an item of that quality level to attempt it's creation.

Perhaps such an order would reduce all created items above that quality to that quality? Basically it would just add the odds of creating every higher quality level to the odds of creating the specified level. Don't know why you'd use the feature to ever create anything less than masterwork, but why not.

Suggesting it because outfitting a squad or creating a bedroom with only masterwork quality items can be annoying if you've gotta keep ordering small numbers of the item and waiting.

[Deepblade]

A possible reason to put out a lower quality item is to control room cost when the economy is functioning.

Instead of just deleting all the higher/lower quality items it should probably just require someone of the appropriate skill level do the work, and if they're far above the requirements it churns out the item normally at that quality. If they're right at the edge of qualifying for the work make it take longer to do the item, and maybe 50% extra material if it decides they messed up on the tolerances.

[Skullsploder]

Perhaps have an "of at least

• quality" function rather than an "of
• quality" function, just because it has less annoying and micromanagey implications.

[Deboche]

I was thinking about this the other day. I agree with making unskilled workers take longer to produce something better but they shouldn't get more experience from it. That way, you can decide between making lots of crappy items quickly to get him to learn or demand quality from the begining and eventually take longer to get masterwork pieces

[Deepblade]

I was thinking about this the other day. I agree with making unskilled workers take longer to produce something better but they shouldn't get more experience from it. That way, you can decide between making lots of crappy items quickly to get him to learn or demand quality from the beginning and eventually take longer to get masterwork pieces.

Well, you learn a lot more when you're working within tighter tolerances. But, the chance of you "killing" the part when you're fairly new or don't know how to approach the particular technique that's required to make the item can a bit higher. A small boost to xp when working way outside of your quality range wouldn't be terrible. To compensate though have the time to complete the item increased even further. And, as I suggested before it could randomly decide if they messed up the part and need extra material to fix the defect.

[Deboche]

or have a chance of useless items being produced, which you then need to dispose of

[dudlol]

To clarify. It wouldn't guarantee a specific quality level. Simply cause the job to repeat until the desired number of items of the requested quality are produced.

Possibly it would also cause the dwarf crafting the items to reduce the quality (which would take extra time) of non masterwork items (what with the bad thought) via damaging them or something if he makes items above the requested quality.

Basically you'd still get a bunch of junk at the same rate you do out of the dwarf, but if you wanted ten masterwork tables he'd keep going (and gaining skill) until you had the ten masterwork tables, regardless of how many tables he makes of other qualities.

[palu]

www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=142432.msg5580000

[pisskop]

Quality is, imo itself broken.  Too easy too soon and too dwarven.  So I wouldnt want yet.