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Captain Xenon

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a strange caravan of barons
« on: August 10, 2014, 01:07:35 pm »

so... i got a message about not having a liason when the dwarven merchants arrived. they were attacked by monkeys which broke a wagon, and refused to leave. the monkeys all died to the defending guards.

then in spring... the dwarves turn into barons and baronesses (one even has a baby which she ignores)... and the King arrives, all alone. i dont even have a mayor yet, my fort is so tiny.

so, what does one do with a band of merchant nobility, who are not of your own fort? im a bit busy trying to keep my dwarves from starving, and now the king wants a room. i guess i should dig UP into the hill for him...

at this point, they look like the first line of defense from any invasion, as they are just standing around outside by where the depot was placed (gonna have to move that soon, now that i have more dug out for defences further in).
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 01:28:13 pm »

I think what happened is that the remainder of your dwarven civilization was conquered. Someone new needed to be made king and new nobles where appointed, it happened to hit the caravan and not your dwarfs but I believe 7 dwarf fortresses with a king and a few nobles have been observed in 0.40 versions. I don't know whether they will be very useful in defense, I would expect that if they die nobody in your fortress will care but some of your fortress inhabitants will become nobles instead.
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 01:48:09 pm »

sometime after the elves arrived (happily with food) the nobility wandered off... i still have the unhappy king. also 2 dead babies, due to a sudden were-lizard popping up. some consort from the human civilization it seems. it left on its own after making a mess of my pasture.

yeah, i knew something was off when i got the message about no liason... ive now moved my depot inside, so its a real mess where the old one was. unit list is showing two wagons 'missing', with wagon wood logs being about from the same time.
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 02:40:29 pm »

I don't know whether they will be very useful in defense, I would expect that if they die nobody in your fortress will care but some of your fortress inhabitants will become nobles instead.
Sounds like some kind of horrifying plague.
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2014, 10:18:08 pm »

I feel your pain.  I hadn't even punched through my aquifer yet, when a whole lot of this happened:

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And then my noble page started to look like this:

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Notice that none of those barons are actually Ralatast's Baron!

And then, during a siege, the Liaison (also a Mayor) managed to sneak in to tell my Mayor about all the chaos that has been going on:

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The hell you say!  I don't know who the heck the Confederation of Trussing is, but they've been mowing through Dwarven Civilization like a hungry giant anteater snarfling down anthills.

I hope the siege breaks, so that the Liaison can get out of here before he goes nuts.  My barely-equipped, barely-trained army was only strong enough to take out the first wave of trolls before frantically having to fall back behind the last set of emergency doors that weren't busted down.  We're going to have to wait this one out, my intrepid little beardies!

So, in my case, the nobles were all inherited, because their parents' homes got wiped out.  I'm not sure why I have to take care of the Noble-needs of a Baroness of some place that no longer exists, but them's the breaks.  I guess I need to plan for bigger office and bedroom districts, after I finally get down to the stone.  Yikes, what a pain!
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2014, 12:49:35 am »

Lock them in their rooms. Because a dead king will only result in another dwarf getting appointed as the monarch, a food chute to periodically drop supplies into their room is usually required.

Channel a small hole into each of their room's ceilings. Cover the holes with floor hatches (to stop them from climbing out), link the hatches to levers. Next, mark the hatches as garbage dump tiles, anytime you want to send supplies (food and drink) down, mark the items to be dumped, they will be carried over to the hatch, at this point you just need to pull the lever twice in rapid succession to drop the supplies down (remember to claim them!)

That's how I treat early nobility who have the NERVE to demand a royal bedroom while other dwarves are sleeping around in the muck.

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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2014, 05:28:31 am »

That's how I treat early nobility who have the NERVE to demand a royal bedroom while other dwarves are sleeping around in the muck.

That's very similar to how I handle vampires -- only, I build an entire small village for them that's walled off from everyone else.  Vampire quarantine.  There's one chute to drop supplies in, and one chute to drop finished goods out.  There's no need to feed them, and they can practice in the barracks or at the archery range when they get bored.

Maybe I should do the same thing with my nobles.  It's clearly a congenital disease.  :-D
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2014, 08:52:57 pm »

Last time I tried that with a vampire he just ran laps of his chamber fast enough to visibly lag me up, constantly.
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2014, 02:56:08 am »

Last time I tried that with a vampire he just ran laps of his chamber fast enough to visibly lag me up, constantly.

You should be able to assign him to a chain.
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Re: a strange caravan of barons
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2014, 04:55:21 am »

Or maybe a masterfully engraved room with a nice bed, every open tile filled with statues and a locked door?  ;D
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