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lordcooper

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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2760 on: November 22, 2017, 02:57:29 pm »

So, as silly as it sounds, there are three things in that video that convince me there's an actual game there. 

1. The sheer quantity of numbers on display.  Like, it's a ludicrous amount of exposed stats and numbers.  YMMV on whether that's a good thing in a game, but I struggle to believe someone just throwing together a mockup would make one with such information density.  It'd be sparse and pretty, less effort, right?

2. He frequently gets distracted by new menus or popups, cutting himself off mid-sentence to explain them.  I wouldn't expect this from someone showing off a fake, they'd have a tight script written beforehand.

3. Birds.  Yes, birds.  It's a completely unnecessary graphical feature that nobody would have noted the absence of.  A total waste of time for a scammer, but something a stressed out coder might well spend an hour or two working on to unwind.

My main concern now isn't that the game will never release (although I have no expectation of another video coming next week), it's that he's going to suddenly dump it into full release and it'll be impenetrable.  Multiple reworks and years of tweaking by one person, with little/no feedback from anyone else isn't really a recipe for ease of use, or even legibility when so information dense.  Here's to hoping it goes the early access / open beta route and he's receptive to feedback.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2761 on: November 22, 2017, 03:10:46 pm »

I recall that back when Darkest Dungeon was being kickstarted, the devs started a video series to show off the game, promising to upload more each week or so. I'm fairly certain that to date, there is only one video in that series. :P
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« Reply #2762 on: November 22, 2017, 04:20:52 pm »

3. Birds.  Yes, birds.  It's a completely unnecessary graphical feature that nobody would have noted the absence of.  A total waste of time for a scammer, but something a stressed out coder might well spend an hour or two working on to unwind.

For what little it's worth, those birds have been there since before the Kickstarter. If you watch the Dev Log 2 video (on the YouTube channel), at around 19:15 Josh mentions the birds. Apparently at one point they could be upgraded to wraiths or wyverns.
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« Reply #2763 on: November 23, 2017, 03:43:10 am »

Birds are soft indicators for your "reach" or "influence" - at least that was the plan.

He wants to add several visual effects that show "ok, here is/was war here" or "magic here", that can give you a more global overview, while the numbers explain it all. The sort by X is great for this, if it works.

Anyone wants to do a bet for when the next video comes out? I can offer a Eador: Masters of the Broken World GoG Key + Mirror's Edge Origin Key as grand prize.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2764 on: November 23, 2017, 07:07:35 am »

I'm gonna be optimistic.  Late December.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2765 on: November 23, 2017, 09:39:07 am »

Ooh! That could be fun. My guess is Mid-January, perhaps around the 7th. Reasoning being that December can be a hella busy month.
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« Reply #2766 on: November 23, 2017, 09:51:49 am »

I don't really use Google or Origin, but I'm expecting Q1 2018, or it'll go back to sleep, possibly forever. That's the most likely option. Q2 is also a credible possibility. I think a release this year is only possible if he took the mature and reasonable strategy of actually waiting until the game was done to resume marketing by doing videos. If that were the case, though, I would have expected to see some reference to the demo in the backer update, since its release would necessarily precede full release.
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« Reply #2767 on: November 23, 2017, 11:14:36 am »

I'm going to be absolutely insane and say a week from yesterday - Nov 29.

I don't actually expect it, but Josh sounded like he's taking this a bit more realistically from the last update, so maybe that translates into doing what he said. Maybe. Kinda.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2768 on: November 23, 2017, 04:31:37 pm »

at best we will get another video in 10 days and then another in a month and then nothing

i want to be wrong about all of this but i just don't believe it
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2769 on: November 23, 2017, 04:50:28 pm »

Regardless of when it comes out, I’m content in the knowledge that it’s still being worked on. Even if it ends up taking another 5 years or something, it’ll still be a game I can buy, and that’s enough for me.
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« Reply #2770 on: November 23, 2017, 05:25:07 pm »

Regardless of when it comes out, I’m content in the knowledge that it’s still being worked on. Even if it ends up taking another 5 years or something, it’ll still be a game I can buy, and that’s enough for me.

i sure hope so. after all, a company is at steak!!
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« Reply #2771 on: November 24, 2017, 02:06:54 am »

Regardless of when it comes out, I’m content in the knowledge that it’s still being worked on. Even if it ends up taking another 5 years or something, it’ll still be a game I can buy, and that’s enough for me.

i sure hope so. after all, a company is at steak!!
A company is nothing without a product anyway.
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« Reply #2772 on: November 24, 2017, 03:47:13 am »

I'm aiming at 14th Dez - always suspect something to take 3x longer then you planned.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2773 on: November 24, 2017, 01:12:31 pm »

I'm going for the big balls play.  The next video will come out before December 2. 

I haven't watched it yet.  I'm not afraid Josh will hurt me again.  I'm just incapable of feeling anything about this game anymore.  I can barely remember why I was excited by it.  The original thread and the subsequent demo and video debacle all happened in (not exaggerating) the worst couple months of my life.  The lowest point.  All my memories of the game are soaked in nauseous dread, just by proximity.

Also:

SBT guy mentions he wants to contact Josh.
SBT guy goes on "hiatus"
Josh comes back with huge video and apparent progress.

Josh killed SBT guy and ate his brain.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #2774 on: November 24, 2017, 01:20:47 pm »

My mental image of Josh is now a mind flayer coding away at a game. Thanks!
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