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Majestic7

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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1485 on: September 15, 2015, 01:04:51 am »

I just hope this doesn't go the route of the Forsaken Fortress. It was a promising post-apocalyptic basebuilding/team exploration & combat game that changed between first and third person several times. This blew all the money the team had and the project was abandoned. It was a successful kickstart that failed to deliver because the team dithered around and didn't stay focused, instead rebuilding the game from scratch several times.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1486 on: September 15, 2015, 01:09:25 am »

I just hope this doesn't go the route of the Forsaken Fortress. It was a promising post-apocalyptic basebuilding/team exploration & combat game that changed between first and third person several times. This blew all the money the team had and the project was abandoned. It was a successful kickstart that failed to deliver because the team dithered around and didn't stay focused, instead rebuilding the game from scratch several times.

Glad I dodged that bullet, I was tempted to back.
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« Reply #1487 on: September 15, 2015, 08:39:38 am »

For those interested but not at a backer level, I just posted some art from the assets on the forums. Since I'm lazy I'll just copy my post over here.


Armies:
- Deep One
- Dwarf
- Horrors
- Human Adventurer
- Undead

Events contains a lot of images, but the art varies a bit, mostly in tone but also a bit in quality.

- Alliance
- Camp
- Portents

These are nice and show what most images look like. But there are also some that I find contrasting with the rest:
- Crawlforth
- Interrogation
- Tribe Civilizes

These are a bit more cartoony/campy than I'd like.

Next up Factions, these also include the Mi-Go and Court of Bone:
- Brood
- Djinni
- Tsathoggua

You might have heard something from the mod tiers about the weird god images, now revel in all their glory:




- The Holy Ice Cream Cone of Dropping

Heraldry has also not been shown much, but it is about what you'd expect:
- Middle Eastern
- Minotaur
- Orc

Institutions have also not been seen since the kickstarter:
- Arms Merchants
- Magic Order
- Underworld guild


And because everybody likes them, some portraits:
- Lizardman Sage
- Generic Adventurer
- Gnome Adventurer
- Tibetan Priest
- Venetian Noble
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1488 on: September 15, 2015, 09:38:10 am »

The art style really is all over the place. Part of me like the more painted art style, but another part of me wishes they'd gone with something simpler, and more charming. Or at least more cohesive. Not like the anime art they had before, but something between that and the (totally sweet) Old One images.

On the other hand, the art does sort of give me that "Magic The Gathering" vibe.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1489 on: September 15, 2015, 10:33:32 am »

hmm well even if they release it dont forget its still beta or alpha or something, so art will propably change. Although i really like that smoking ogre.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1490 on: September 15, 2015, 12:15:05 pm »

The art varies so much because from what I understand literally all of it is from freelance artists and other sources. They have no permanent artist last I checked
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1491 on: September 15, 2015, 01:49:49 pm »

I find the smoking ogre rather charming myself. He doesn't match the more extreme stuff, but he looks like a cool guy. I like him.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1492 on: September 15, 2015, 05:02:20 pm »

The art style really is all over the place. Part of me like the more painted art style, but another part of me wishes they'd gone with something simpler, and more charming. Or at least more cohesive. Not like the anime art they had before, but something between that and the (totally sweet) Old One images.

On the other hand, the art does sort of give me that "Magic The Gathering" vibe.
I was going to say the same thing. The art style is incredibly inconsistent. Many of the smaller icons are really vague. Can you even tell the undead is undead if you look only at the picture? Why does the deep one look like he is holding a pair of sticks? Why is there a smirking smoking disney ogre?

I mean I'll probably enjoy the game regardless, I play games in ascii without really worrying too much about art, but it just strikes me as odd. The last game I saw with such an inconsistent art style was A Valley Without Wind and it really bothered me at the time because the styles clashed.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1493 on: September 15, 2015, 05:16:02 pm »

Gameplay > Design

Anyway, as I said on the forums there, it's a bit of a release something we can touch or riot
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1494 on: September 15, 2015, 09:44:32 pm »

I just hope this doesn't go the route of the Forsaken Fortress. It was a promising post-apocalyptic basebuilding/team exploration & combat game that changed between first and third person several times. This blew all the money the team had and the project was abandoned. It was a successful kickstart that failed to deliver because the team dithered around and didn't stay focused, instead rebuilding the game from scratch several times.

Glad I dodged that bullet, I was tempted to back.

To be fair, it's not actually dead. They released a Demo of it to backers last month.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1495 on: September 16, 2015, 12:06:55 am »

Regarding the art: at this point only the portraits and faction art (of those I just showed) are definitive. Most of the events are also keepers, but the rest is Beta level assets, their art budget isn't gone yet and they have plenty of money left.

I still think the army icons are pretty clear, they will of course be small since they have to fit on the map next to a POI.
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« Reply #1496 on: September 16, 2015, 01:30:27 pm »

I'm not getting where the negativity in these posts is coming from: they have an ambitious game, they have regular updates with details about game features in development.

They are behind on (the internet's imaginary) deadlines: but so what?

They are working on it full time and aren't out of money.  I'm still quite optimistic about this.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1497 on: September 16, 2015, 01:34:50 pm »

I dont get it either...I assume lack of patience + sense of entitlement
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1498 on: September 16, 2015, 01:35:16 pm »

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They are behind on (the internet's imaginary) deadlines: but so what?

I'm not disagreeing with you, but, point in fact: they have missed almost all of their own stated deadlines. This is like the 3rd time they've rolled back the mod tools release.
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Re: That which sleeps- Kickstarted!
« Reply #1499 on: September 16, 2015, 01:47:25 pm »

They are behind on (the internet's imaginary) deadlines: but so what?

Must be easy to be optimistic when you just delete inconvenient facts from your worldview. Every milestone they've promised has been delayed if not outright abandoned. If we were publishers and not suckers, sorry I mean backers, then KDG would be in big trouble right now.
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