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[Berserkenstein]

Anyone got any tips on finding hemp? 

I managed to find it on my first embark on the new version, but I haven't found any since.

Hemp is pretty awesome, it gives you cloth like rope reed and flour like longland grass all in one crop.

I know it grows on any temperate biome, but I've tried temperate grassland, shrubland, and conifer forest so far but no dice.

I keep getting rope reed and stupid oats and millet, but no hemp.

Is it just random and rare and I am just unlucky?

[Getix Kain]

Check the merchants (Elves, especially). They might have seeds.

[Iamblichos]

Funny you should say that... since .40.01 dawned, I have never had an elf bring any seeds for anything, or plain cloth.  Eventually if you bribe them, by year 3 or so they will show up with wood, but never seeds or cloth.

[Berserkenstein]

Yup the only things I buy from the elves is fruit and animals, every thing else is useless.

[therahedwig]

It's random, but more likely, you are just glancing past it: There's a damn lot of plants in this release.

[Saiko Kila]

Anyone got any tips on finding hemp? 

I managed to find it on my first embark on the new version, but I haven't found any since.

Hemp is pretty awesome, it gives you cloth like rope reed and flour like longland grass all in one crop.

I know it grows on any temperate biome, but I've tried temperate grassland, shrubland, and conifer forest so far but no dice.

I keep getting rope reed and stupid oats and millet, but no hemp.

Is it just random and rare and I am just unlucky?

I do not only have hemp, I also used plant it. It is more than flour and cloth, it is also a source of oil which can be used to make soap. Unfortunately I lost all seeds due to this. I found new plants, but was too busy to acquire them.

BTW other plants used to make oil/soap in unmodified game are quarry bush, flax, cotton and kenaf. Also supposedly oil can be made from olives, but since olives are produced by trees I had no chance to test them.

I'm not sure if they are rare, I found mine in warm temperate freshwater/saltwater swamp. I can't find flax (flax also gives flour and cloth) or cotton there, so to me hemp is not rare. Since there are tons of crops maybe you're just unlucky with hemp, try to search for flax.

[TheFlame52]

Hemp is like the plump helmet of the surface. So useful!

[escondida]

[ S]upposedly oil can be made from olives, but since olives are produced by trees I had no chance to test them.

If you're not averse to a little modding, consider adding [OUTDOOR_ORCHARDS] to the humans and dwarves in entity_standard.txt. It won't guarantee you'll get olives, but it will make human and dwarven traders bring fruit from any trees the civ happens to have access to. You still won't be able to harvest them yourself, but it's something, at least.

[Akura]

Hemp is like the plump helmet of the surface. So useful!

I dunno, I dumped several in magma, and nearby dwarves became dizzy and canceled jobs with Urist McHauler cancels Store Item in Stockpile: Interuptted by Munchies.

[Saiko Kila]

[ S]upposedly oil can be made from olives, but since olives are produced by trees I had no chance to test them.

If you're not averse to a little modding, consider adding [OUTDOOR_ORCHARDS] to the humans and dwarves in entity_standard.txt. It won't guarantee you'll get olives, but it will make human and dwarven traders bring fruit from any trees the civ happens to have access to. You still won't be able to harvest them yourself, but it's something, at least.

I've got nothing against modding, so I will do that. Only problem is that dwarves and humans bring wagons, which are deconstructed due to a bug/feature, which leads to loss of trade. Previously I used to claim the goods lying on ground, but lately it is all red, which prevent my dwarves from using it (I suppose it is caused by a merchant yak stuck in the brook, yak doesn't drown, but I can't kill it). Anyway, as soon as I have resolved the problems with trading I'll try to make some "Aleppo soap".

[Murphy]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned smoking so far.

[therahedwig]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned smoking so far.

Akura attempted to, but then Akura is apparantly not aware hemp needs to smoulder, not burn. And because nothing can smoulder in dwarf fortress, your dwarves can't smoke.

Trufax.

(Smoking pipes is on the old devlist though >_>)

[Saiko Kila]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned smoking so far.

Akura attempted to, but then Akura is apparantly not aware hemp needs to smoulder, not burn. And because nothing can smoulder in dwarf fortress, your dwarves can't smoke.

Trufax.

(Smoking pipes is on the old devlist though >_>)

Don't heated items smoulder just before they erupt in flames? By heated items I mean refuse mixed with corpses created by burning... I had problems with such fires in the past, and they appeared to start with lots of smoke before actual fire.

Also, since hemp was introduced, I always assumed that dwarves use hemp cakes (product of pressing) the same way humans use marijuana cakes. It just doesn't show, because most dwarves are naturally crazy. Plus if they like something, their spirit is highly elevated after eating it, no matter whether this is a narcotic or no, so many of them are perpetually "stoned".

[Broseph Stalin]

Should grow in any DRY temperate biome. If you can't find it fair and square find a plant on your embark that you have no interest in using and then swap it's raws for hemp raws.

[Berserkenstein]

What temperate biomes are dry though?