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Author Topic: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.  (Read 203404 times)

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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1320 on: August 24, 2016, 05:06:53 pm »
So I hear Turkey made a major land incursion into Syria today. Can we talk about that here? It seems to be primarily an invasion of IS territory, but given this is the Turks we are talking about... It could well be an attack on Kurds or the Syrian government. The attack was done with the support of the US military.

Do we talk about that here? Or Ameripol? Or somewhere else I'm not thinking of?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1321 on: August 25, 2016, 12:22:50 am »
It's interesting. I wonder what Russia's reaction will be, are they on it?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1322 on: August 25, 2016, 12:35:38 am »
Calling human rights watch reports and world bank figures bullshit wiki info makes you look somewhat dumb. Please stop the biased ranting miljan.
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« Reply #1323 on: August 25, 2016, 01:30:47 am »
Turkey invasion: Have they invaded that little area that's supposed to be "Armageddon" for IS?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1324 on: August 25, 2016, 01:33:32 am »
Quote from: misko27 on August 24, 2016, 05:06:53 pm
So I hear Turkey made a major land incursion into Syria today. Can we talk about that here? It seems to be primarily an invasion of IS territory, but given this is the Turks we are talking about... It could well be an attack on Kurds or the Syrian government. The attack was done with the support of the US military.

Do we talk about that here? Or Ameripol? Or somewhere else I'm not thinking of?

It is an attack on the Kurds. Turkey said it wont pull back until the Kurds go east of the Euphrates. Sad that America caved in to that dictator.

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« Reply #1325 on: August 25, 2016, 01:42:28 am »
If they fulfill the prophecy that IS is supposed to believe, they are bumbling fools. Why give your enemy propaganda?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1326 on: August 25, 2016, 03:14:34 am »
Not so much an attack ON THE KURDs as IN THE WAY OF THE KURDs. I guess the US are just glad to have Turkey in the fight and are concerned about the Russian-Turkey rapprochement.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1327 on: August 29, 2016, 06:43:45 pm »
Quote from: BorkBorkGoesTheCode on August 25, 2016, 01:42:28 am
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« Reply #1328 on: August 29, 2016, 07:45:57 pm »
At least you are getting their story straight.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1329 on: September 07, 2016, 07:25:24 pm »
The UN reports to have evidence that the Assad regime used chlorine gas on it's civilians again, for the second time within a week. Abuot 80 people, amongst whom 50 children, had to be treated for respiratory problems after cilinder bombs were dropped on the Al-Sukari district of Aleppo. The whole neighborhood smelled of chlorine according to human rights observers.

You might wonder, how Assad has gas, after international teams removed the chemical weapons from his country?
Simple. They intentionally left the chloride gas, because it's not considered a chemical weapon until it is actually used in combat. Before that, it's just a legal industrial product. So the chemwarfare removal team had no choice but to leave it.

Hey, Obama. How about that 'red line that can't be crossed' ?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1330 on: September 07, 2016, 07:50:01 pm »
Quote from: martinuzz on September 07, 2016, 07:25:24 pm
The UN reports to have evidence that the Assad regime used chlorine gas on it's civilians again, for the second time within a week. Abuot 80 people, amongst whom 50 children, had to be treated for respiratory problems after cilinder bombs were dropped on the Al-Sukari district of Aleppo. The whole neighborhood smelled of chlorine according to human rights observers.

You might wonder, how Assad has gas, after international teams removed the chemical weapons from his country?
Simple. They intentionally left the chloride gas, because it's not considered a chemical weapon until it is actually used in combat. Before that, it's just a legal industrial product. So the chemwarfare removal team had no choice but to leave it.

Hey, Obama. How about that 'red line that can't be crossed' ?

To be fair, if you went after every nation with large amounts of chlorine you'd be at war with the entire planet because of the many many uses for chlorine. However, using it in warfare is completely unacceptable/internationally illegal.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1331 on: September 15, 2016, 03:53:30 am »
So, it seems that the new Saudi leadership realized that funding Islamist extremist is a bad idea. I was and am skeptical of their reformist credential as far as the economy goes (Few things of substance but the sale of part of Saudi Aramco, and that look a lot like an occasion for massive embezzlement), but if they do stop funding extremist Madrassah abroad and are able to rein in their own clergy, some good might come out of this.

Of course, the alliance between the House of Saud and the Wahabbis is centuries old at this point, and even if the reformist leadership is earnest it is by no mean certain they will succeed.
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« Reply #1332 on: September 16, 2016, 02:15:13 pm »
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1333 on: September 16, 2016, 02:31:10 pm »
Quote from: miljan on September 16, 2016, 02:15:13 pm
American commandos 'forced to run away' from US-backed Syrian rebels
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/16/american-commandos-forced-to-run-away-from-us-backed-syrian-rebe/
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What a remarkably vapid article, even for the general shittiness that is Syria reporting.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #1334 on: September 16, 2016, 03:03:52 pm »
Quote from: miljan on September 16, 2016, 02:15:13 pm
American commandos 'forced to run away' from US-backed Syrian rebels
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/16/american-commandos-forced-to-run-away-from-us-backed-syrian-rebe/
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Not surprised, a lot of FSA groups that work in that region hate Kurds. But reports are already saying that US forces are back in, after the group of those that forced them out was disbanded and moved to other parts
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