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Author Topic: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.  (Read 209253 times)

Lt_Alfred

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Well, that was bound to happen sooner or later:

https://twitter.com/Conflict_Report/status/519594823271989248

Seems like the death toll is rising. some say 14 but i also seen reports of 25.

That's not entirely Turkey's fault, ISIS sympathisers took up arms and shot up some Kurdish demonstrators.
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burningpet

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Turkey's prime minister said that so far, 31 have been killed in the Pro-Kurds riots in Turkey.

The kurds are right to outrage. ISIS wouldn't have been a threat to them in the first place if it wasn't for turkish funds and their open borders policy toward islamist terrorists.

Hamburg Germany:
Local police fear muslim proxy wars in their city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxLRnfb4UY
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/09/Syria--Iraq-conflicts-spark-street-clashes-in-Germany

ISIS youngest martyr, at 10 years old. he is far from being the only child soldier among islamists terrorist groups.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/10/09/ISIS-supporters-mourn-death-of-youngest-fighter-.html
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Strife26

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Here's an interesting article outlining the idea of a Mercenary Army presented by someone who isn't quite so incompetent as Papa O'Riley.

http://www.havokjournal.com/military/to-mercenary-or-not-to-mercenary


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Helgoland

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There's a reason though that Carthage lost the war against Rome...
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Arguably he's already a progressive, just one in the style of an enlightened Kaiser.
I'm going to do the smart thing here and disengage. This isn't a hill I paticularly care to die on.

DJ

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Mercenaries without real military with them to keep them in check? If you want ISIL thoroughly raped, burned and pillaged, you can do it for a lot less money by declaring a crusade.
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I really do wonder if that would work, DJ. Sure, there's still a lot of christians in the world. But somehow I doubt there will be many christians willing to sacrifice their comfy life to take up arms and start pulling trigger in the name of the Lord. I think for every 100 radicalized muslim youngsters that travel to Syria to join the Jihad, from any random western country, you'd be counting yourself rich if you think you can find 1 christian person willing to go that way.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2014, 07:41:30 am by martinuzz »
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Helgoland

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There's a load of really religious Christians in Africa and Latin America, though. Coupled with money from evangelicals in the US, they could become a force to be reckoned with.
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I dunno, look at the atrocities and various things that the crusaders did.

Not to mention that some could just decide to use it as an excuse to kill Muslims other than those in ISIS.
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Yeah, fighting religious extremism fuelled violence with religious extremism fuelled violence seems like one of the worst ideas I have ever heard.

Lt_Alfred

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Them Kurds are a tough nut to crack, eh?
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Sheb

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So, hire a bunch of guys with guns to go and kill ISIS? Isn't that what the US army is for?
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DJ

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I reckon USA could cough up at least 100 000 crusaders. Lots of crazies there, especially in the Bible Belt, and they hate Muslims almost as much as they love guns. But yeah, there'd be a lot of atrocities committed. Thing is, I don't think mercenaries would be any better.
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smjjames

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Mercenaries are also harder to control. With their money, ISIS might be able to buy some of them off, which you can't do with a regular army.
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Akura

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I dunno, look at the atrocities and various things that the crusaders did.

Pretty much the reason why Muslims hate Christians some 1000 years later.
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