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Prudent Viper

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Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« on: August 06, 2014, 10:16:38 am »

We dug too deep, we opened the gates of Hell itself. The Demon hordes poured out like a unstoppable wave. Our warriors gathered at the breach, ready to fight...and die.
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Well, that was quick.

This was my first time opening the HFS. I wanted a quick end to a five year fortress. My soldiers? Nine, all very skilled but only equipped with mediocre quality iron and silver. Hardly the stuff of legends. Perhaps the circus isn't all it's cracked up to be-

An ash... aphid? Really? That's somewhat unintimidating.


And a ash lizard. Blimey, these lads got some really poor dice rolls. Armok did not give unto them with both hands.

So, what do I do now? I want to find a fitting end for my fortress. The garden pests of the underworld are laughable. While they can kill a untrained civillian or a war dog with ease, they fall apart when you say "Boo!" Sieges won't cut it, as they're rare and undisciplined. I've yet to have anything bigger than a werepig attack my dwarves. How am I supposed to kill the blighters?
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 10:34:49 am »

You probably had a bunch of weak combinations of demons. Like those ash demons, some can be very weak and die with single hits. Like demons made of snow or vomit. More nasty combinations can involve demons made of steel or fire.
They are randomly generated like forgotten beasts, so you can get anything from laughable to unkillable (by standard weapons).

But you can kill everything with cave-ins and upright spike traps.
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 10:37:29 am »

And encasing them in obsidian.
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 10:48:33 am »

You know there is only one thing for you to do now.

Push on, and advance! HFS shall belong to the dwarves!
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 10:51:25 am »

The demons that spawn from hell themselves are randomly picked from the available species, too.  Sometimes you get ten or even twenty kinds of demons, sometimes just one.  Only getting weak ash-demons, instead of something like deadly dust, is fairly lucky.
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 10:52:01 am »

Colonize Hell, build a city there, more demons will eventually come, perhaps some different species. If a steel demon comes it will be fun.

If no fun comes by itself, "accidentally" flood it with magma (you might want to cover the glowing pits so the dont drain).

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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 10:59:51 am »

You've only got two kinds there, aphids and gila monsters. I had some salt mephits or something break through while I was mining adamantine carelessly, and they were dealt with, so I stopped nervously watching it.

Then these 'black brutes' came through and ripped everything in my fortress limb from limb.
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 12:05:41 pm »

Ahem.
Perhaps I spoke too soon.
You see, while these demons are extremely fragile, they can do something my dwarves can't.
Fly.
I got cocky. I sent my nine dwarves to assault hell itself. Unfortunately, that presented somewhat of a logistical problem, being as the demons were coming out of a several z level high tube. I mustered as many miners as I could to make a way down, but the demons kept coming. As I got more excited by the prospect of making hell my new home, I neglected to carve out enough space for my warriors to fight in. At some point, they ended up fighting on areas no larger than two squares.

These soldiers were legendary dodgers.

And so, gravity slew five of my best. Not directly, but the fall was enough to stun them long enough for the damned creatures to punch them to death. While incredibly fragile, I learned that the aphids were terrifyingly strong. Every time they hit, something successfully "exploded into gore"

 I retreated with the others and the miners, thinking I'd take time and regroup. Time I did not have. I had an unexpected guest



It flashed in from the caverns like a bolt of lightning. My strategy of closely packing my dwarves worked against me here. Within a heartbeat,  my four remaining veterans had died. I'm still not entirely sure how. It also managed to kill four of the twenty strong spearmillitia I'd had as a reserve before one put him down in a single stab.

My spearmen were no where near as disciplined as my veterans had been. Most of them were horrified by the carnage, and those who weren't were murdering each other.

And the demons were STILL coming.

In the end, my fortress proved to be it's own downfall. Turns out that giving your civvies weapons is NOT a good idea. They laid into each other with gusto. In the aftermath of the chaos, all that remained were three of my original forty dwarves. The chief medical dwarf was lying unconscious in his own hospital, clutching a steel axe. His ribs had only been broken, which meant that it must have been another dwarf who harmed him. Two competent speardwarves, one of whom had been a member of the original seven.
And two demons. Just two. Seems oddly poetic. I almost felt as if the fortress had been given another chance.
I sent my dwarves to fight. They'd only need to hit once. But then, so would their infernal opponents.

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The Gods are just, but not kind. They died, and I spent the last remaining minutes watching my last, unconcious dwarf dehydrate. There was nothing I could do to save him, nothing I could do to comfort his final moments.
When he grew dim, when the light left him, so did it leave the fortress.

"Your settlement has crumbled to its end"
And so ends Washedbeards, one of the last, if not the last, dwarven strongholds within the Absolute Realm.
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 01:10:13 pm »

The !!FUN!! never ends!
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 02:00:48 am »

Why were you dwarves attacking each other?
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 02:19:26 am »

This is why DF is glorious.
"Guys I broke into hell, it's just a bunch of bugs made of loose ash."
2 hours later.
"Holy shit, these ash bugs FLY, and they hit like fucking bricks.  I've lost all my soldiers immediately and there's JUST SO MANY DEMONS!"

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 04:17:16 am »

Why were you dwarves attacking each other?

Tantrum spiral most likely. They get grumpy and want to hit someone to feel better. Instead of hitting the things responsible for the death of their father, they'll just hit the closest dwarf, with the deadliest thing handy (silver warhammer for example)
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 06:12:14 am »

Why were you dwarves attacking each other?

Tantrum spiral most likely. They get grumpy and want to hit someone to feel better. Instead of hitting the things responsible for the death of their father, they'll just hit the closest dwarf, with the deadliest thing handy (silver warhammer for example)
Exactly. My fort was self sufficient, and because I was mindful of my fps, it didn't produce much. That meant a lot of idlers, and a lot of friendships. Cue death and destruction.

This is why DF is glorious.
"Guys I broke into hell, it's just a bunch of bugs made of loose ash."
2 hours later.
"Holy shit, these ash bugs FLY, and they hit like fucking bricks.  I've lost all my soldiers immediately and there's JUST SO MANY DEMONS!"
It wasn't even the demons, mostly. It was that damned forgotten beast who webbed all my remaining legendary soldiers. After that happened, well, the fortress probably would have even crumbled on it's own, even without Hell breathing down my neck. While my elite wrestlers could have held them at bay indefinitely, they couldn't have survived the subsequent tantrum spiral. I see now that drafting my spearmilitia was a HUGE mistake.
By the end over a hundred demons were dead. Throw the forgotten beast in there, and I reckon my dwarves gave a pretty good accounting of themselves. Now, to head back in adventurer mode and finish what I started :).
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Re: Well, that was disappointing. (SPOILERS)
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2014, 01:08:14 am »

Why were you dwarves attacking each other?

Triggering it to see if you can still avoid the dorf going insane after melting a masterwork item is a fun stupid thing to do too.

Surprisingly it takes only a couple of fist fights; and as long as they don't wail on sleeping dwarves, they might become ecstatic after ward.....
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EDIT: Keas restricted to tropical forests where they belong.  Those evil, EVIL, foul little things.
 
Edit: The baby murderer became a friend of the fortress, which started a loyalty cascade, and now most of the squad is dead.