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Author Topic: Dominions 4 Round 4.09 - Yomi wins!  (Read 20156 times)

AlStar

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.09 - Six Contenders for the Throne
« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2014, 10:32:40 am »

Having a random rainstorm show up right on the turn your fire mages go to war is not a good thing.

I doubt I would've won, but at least the fires wouldn't have been immediately extinguished.

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« Reply #76 on: September 16, 2014, 12:41:10 am »

Congratulations on getting all my assassins that time, Al. ;)
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« Reply #77 on: September 16, 2014, 12:50:22 am »

I'm pretty sure you're still ahead, gold-wise.

Edit: That's quite the kitted-out assassin you've got there. I was just about to complain how he managed to take on a fire elemental and two bodyguards without breaking a sweat, but given his gear, the flames never touched him at all.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2014, 11:59:19 pm by AlStar »
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« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2014, 11:40:32 pm »

Having vision of the whole map just made me realize that a someone might actually be really close to victory right now. If one of those four thrones is a level 2 throne, then this could be over fairly quickly. The main problem for them is probably that they'll have to take their prophet around to claim the thrones. Hmm, having H3 recruitable priests is huge in thrones victory.
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« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2014, 11:58:28 pm »

Edit: That's quite the kitted-out assassin you've got there. I was just about to complain how he managed to take on a fire elemental and two bodyguards without breaking a sweat, but given his gear, the flames never touched him at all.

Although all that gear (on the other two) wasn't able to protect them from your patrolling armies, and Yomi's coming in the back door which I wasn't able to keep closed, but I don't think it matters because someone else will probably be winning Real Soon Now via thrones.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.09 - Six Contenders for the Throne
« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2014, 06:18:51 pm »

I'm going to need a 24h delay, for this game :/
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« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2014, 06:44:54 pm »

I'm going to need a 24h delay, for this game :/
done.

Edit: That was a lot of javelins.
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« Reply #82 on: September 30, 2014, 05:19:27 pm »

Seriously, Ermor? Seriously?! 99% of your army is fleeing the field (again!) and it's my morale that breaks?!

Stupid blind mages, casting magma eruptions right in the middle of my own troops. But even so! Just... ARG!

Shadowlord

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« Reply #83 on: September 30, 2014, 09:03:32 pm »

Heh heh heh, yep.

It looked like the only troops I had who weren't running at the end were a couple decaying PD troops still fighting a corpse candle, along with both a non-PD mage, a PD mage, and a priest. Of course the rest of the running PD probably only ran because of squad morale.

Just FYI, I have 57 province defense there. I mathed it, and unless I'm mistaken, it was cheaper to buy PD than the equivalent troops, even before accounting for their miraculous resurrection after every near-defeat.

Spoiler: My math (click to show/hide)

Of course I wouldn't necessarily claim that ~194 troops are better than a dozen good mages... That was as much luck as anything else.
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« Reply #84 on: October 01, 2014, 04:30:12 am »

Besides the mage argument, the problem with PD is that it's there. Need to defend something else? Tough luck. Getting attacked by something that WILL slaughter the whole province and prevent PD resurrection? Better luck next time.

Of course if you know that you will get attacked somewhere and pumping the PD will help you repulse an attack, it's worth it. But arguably that's a crutch for poor play, as in an ideal situation the ideal player will have recruited more mobile troops beforehand and use them to defend the province, then move them onwards and attack more provinces.

Of course nobody's an ideal player playing ideal games all the time, so there's that.
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« Reply #85 on: October 01, 2014, 04:39:10 am »

In dominion, I feel like I only play my worst game everytime :/
And this one isn't an exception.
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« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2014, 09:52:09 am »

Of course if you know that you will get attacked somewhere and pumping the PD will help you repulse an attack, it's worth it. But arguably that's a crutch for poor play, as in an ideal situation the ideal player will have recruited more mobile troops beforehand and use them to defend the province, then move them onwards and attack more provinces.

That would be ideal, to be sure, but I have 3 provinces left and can't make troops fast enough or support enough of them with my income for that to be viable. I'm just trying to make the cost to AlStar to take my provinces as high as possible.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.09 - Six Contenders for the Throne
« Reply #87 on: October 01, 2014, 03:20:08 pm »

Well in that case you're probably not getting back up and it's not like AlStar has a lot of options when it comes to prioritizing your provinces at this point :P
Spitefully going down is the name of the game.
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« Reply #88 on: October 01, 2014, 03:34:59 pm »

Never going to give up ! :D
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« Reply #89 on: October 01, 2014, 08:46:57 pm »

Yomi staled and would like a rollback - I'm not against it, but would definitely like support from the other players first - we're definitely not in the stage of the game were such things have no impact on other players any more.
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