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Re: Armchair General General - /AGG
« Reply #780 on: July 05, 2016, 07:06:17 am »

Ok well yeah that's density. Its easier to fit a handful of lead into a replicator then to compress a whole roomful of oxygen into it :P

As for why no neutrons because they have little to do with the actual element, and more to do with isotopes. They're kinda secondary to Protons in this context.
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Re: Armchair General General - /AGG
« Reply #781 on: July 05, 2016, 07:17:29 am »

Is atomic mass really all there is to energy? I thought there was more.

Also the recycling might not be atomic at all. We don't necessarily know.

think it's something in the way your posts are written, and something I've observed across a bunch of topics.

Okay but where is this concern for other people. Tack was complaining about me telling them how they felt but said nothing when they continued to do so even after his white knight referee move.

I would be a lot more sympathetic to these complaints if I had ever once seen them applied to anyone else.
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« Reply #782 on: July 05, 2016, 07:24:16 am »

Again, I don't know, but most of the time their post don't feel as aggressive as yours.
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« Reply #783 on: July 05, 2016, 08:04:47 am »

'The Referee' and 'The White Knight' are two different forum personalities. Please don't apply both to me. I am gallant for no man, I just dislike when the discussion is sidetracked by you being shit.
BFEL may have been getting passionate, but at least he was on topic about it.
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God dude. CHILL OUT.  It's just a conversation.  Stop acting so angry.
That was where you came against poe's law. Kot, I knew was shitposting. I've given him crap about it in other threads. No, I'm not going to link them to soothe your battered ego.

Ever heard the saying something like "If someone has a problem with you, it's them; if many people have a problem with you, it's you"?
As has been said by two others, something about the way you've been posting makes you seem either really worked up, or rather bad at conveying humour through text.
Believe me when I say I'm trying to be helpful, so I'd really prefer we get the thread back on the rails, like I was trying to achieve with my first post before I ended up just being pulled into this mess.
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« Reply #784 on: July 05, 2016, 08:26:40 am »

No, I'm not going to link them to soothe your battered ego.
This kinda thing is probably why he was getting so salty Tack. There's some definite back and forth going on here. Just pointing this out so mainiac doesn't have to later.
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Re: Armchair General General - /AGG
« Reply #785 on: July 05, 2016, 08:28:31 am »

That is literally the exact double standard I was talking about.

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« Reply #786 on: July 05, 2016, 08:57:03 am »

True, it didn't need saying. My apologies. I tend to get dickish when I'm trying to give advice- offsets my fear of being helpful.
Whether or not the pertinent, non-dickish part of that advice will be taken heed of, I hope to find out.

As for double standard- it's possible, although certainly unconsciously happening. But it's less likely that I, RPGeek and Sheb all have a hidden bias towards all of the people you were arguing with.
It's more likely that you've taken it too far.

On the note of 'taken it too far', can we move this to PM's or something?
Because an awesome discussion is happening and I want to follow it and also probably necro the one about the pikes and the crossbows.
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« Reply #787 on: July 05, 2016, 09:58:25 am »

Regarding C) The Tau are Xeno, and thousands of years of xenophobia aren't set aside easily. But do not that I said Human and Humane. Most of the settings we've discussed are human-dominated.

As for macro cannons, I've seen a range of 40 km on the lexicanum. That's not going to help you much.
You' re mixing up ground based and space based macro cannons. Which is okay, they're easy to confuse because they have the same bloody name. But BFG and a wealth of Black Library novels confirm the range.

And Chaos is often human too, and they're going to be at least as tempting as the Federation or Empire, and the Imperium hasn't fallen yet.
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« Reply #788 on: July 05, 2016, 11:47:05 am »

Deuterium specifically is an isotope of hydrogen, and exactly one neutron heavier. It's also not especially rare, available in low concentration wherever hydrogen or water are. If the replicators just convert stuff into energy and back again, the only thing that matters is the mass of an object, so a two-ounce gold watch could easily become a two-ounce box of nanitic medical supplies or something.
Well then Deuterium is a very weird example then and I have no idea why its considered rare.

As for the "the only thing that matters is the mass of an object" no. What matters is the ATOMIC mass of an object. Basically how many protons are in its atom.
So you could convert lead (82 protons) to gold (79 protons) at a somewhat decent exchange rate, but converting oxygen (8 protons) into gold would quickly deplete the atmosphere.
This also explains why that watch would be energy rich, since it was gold and gold is one of the decently high massed elements.
Meanwhile most foodstuffs are made of carbon which has only 6 protons and is thus easy to make lots of.
So basically people mine things because metals and such tend to have higher atomic mass and thus make buttloads of food.

Exactly.
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Re: Armchair General General - /AGG
« Reply #789 on: July 05, 2016, 12:05:36 pm »

Tack, no need to insult mainiac either. Alao, if you want to take it to PMs, you could, you know, PM him instead of berating him here....

Where can i find info on spaceborne macro cannons?

Also, given that ramming is a viable tactic in BFG, thats a sign the imperium lack range.
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« Reply #790 on: July 05, 2016, 12:31:02 pm »

But it's less likely that I, RPGeek and Sheb all have a hidden bias towards all of the people you were arguing with.

I have no beef with Sheb.

I appreciate you coming out against dickishness though.  My honor is satisfied, there is no need for a duel.

Also, given that ramming is a viable tactic in BFG, thats a sign the imperium lack range.

Ramming is such an iconic tactic that it shows up pretty much everywhere.
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Re: Armchair General General - /AGG
« Reply #791 on: July 05, 2016, 12:42:46 pm »

Then I too shall cease my quiet seething at being called a white knight.
Edit: ... But now a duel sounds awesome cool.
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Re: Armchair General General - /AGG
« Reply #792 on: July 05, 2016, 01:14:58 pm »

Crossbows are not a replacement for 15th century firearms. Firearms have similar reload times, better stopping power, and a massive psychological effect on the enemy.
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« Reply #793 on: July 05, 2016, 01:22:45 pm »

Do they have more of an effect on enemies that are familier with them? Frightening Aztec I get, but European soldiers?
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« Reply #794 on: July 05, 2016, 01:24:09 pm »

Probably would frighten the unfamiliar less, honestly. The Aztecs went around with their crazy Death Whistles, which were loud but harmless. It's only once you've seen what a gun can do to someone that the fear sets in beyond "loud noise".
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