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[Sergarr]

German tractors have much better engines than Russian tractors.

[BlindKitty]

German tractors have much better engines than Russian tractors.

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Who sells more tractors abroad, Germans or Russians?

[LordSlowpoke]

depends, belarus outsells both so if you include it in russia

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I'd ask a different question: How many Russian tractors were imported to Germany and vice versa? Or a more broad question: How many Russian diesel equipped vehicles were imported to Germany and vice versa?

[Sergarr]

German tractors have much better engines than Russian tractors.

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Who sells more tractors abroad, Germans or Russians?

Soviets sold much more tanks abroad than US => Soviet had better tank engines.

Same logic.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

a) I told it before. Armament market is not exactly free.
b) Number sold tells more about price\quality ratio than about quality. After all American tanks are few times more expensive than Russian.  If you want to tell me that competitive advantage of German tractors is price, I'll lol very hard

[Sergarr]

Germany buys Belorussian tractors, you know.

That means they have a competitive advantage. And because Belarus is a (jokingly) Russian forward partisan outpost, it means that the Russian-made tractors are more competitive than the German ones, and not only because they're cheaper.

[Sheb]

1) That article is hilarious. I read the whole of it in a fake Russian accent in my head.

2) To quote from it.

Of course, this tractor is not equal to European tractors but if we take the price/quality ratio, I think your tractor is very good.

[Culise]

I don't recall any other gas-turbine tank engines

Soviet T-80. In fact it was the first mass produced tank in the world with a gas-turbine engine.

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I think you are missing my point. It is absolutely logical that same companies that produce diesel engines for agriculture, mining or construction vehicles produce engines for tanks.

But quality differs. German tractors have much better engines than Russian tractors. My assumption that  it is same for Leopard II and T-90 engines

Ah, I did forget that tank's engine as well.  Odd, that...

And yes, I did miss your point; I thought you were ragging on it because it came from a tractor plant. 

[Jopax]

Yeah, but on what facts do you base your assumptions that russians will produce shittier engines and tanks compared to the west? Because they're just russians? That makes no sense honestly.

And if we're going to take the price into assesing the quality of these tanks than the Russians can by all means field more of their slightly inferior tanks in which case the tables are pretty much equal.

[Sergarr]

Yeah, but on what facts do you base your assumptions that russians will produce shittier engines and tanks compared to the west? Because they're just russians? That makes no sense honestly.

And if we're going to take the price into assesing the quality of these tanks than the Russians can by all means field more of their slightly inferior tanks in which case the tables are pretty much equal.

He's Ukrainian.

[Loud Whispers]

God damn I love battle tractors.

[BlindKitty]

Maybe on the mere fact that apparently there is nothing Russkies made that is better than the counterparts from other countries? They are unable to produce anything good enough to be exported in significant numbers, as far as I know, and their main exports are raw materials. Why would their tank engines be any different? It is hard to have one part of the industry kept on the world-top standard when the rest falls apart all around you.

[Sergarr]

China exports a lot of things into other markets.

Does that means that their goods are better than the counterparts from the other countries?

[Jopax]

There's also the fact that most of the countries that would buy russian tanks can now either afford to develop and build their own or buy the pricier western ones.