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Gay dwarves
« on: August 03, 2014, 09:13:33 pm »

I know that it's a touchy subject, so I'm not going to try and start a debate on what should/should not be the case.  Does anyone know how to regain the old functionality of dwarves only marrying the opposite sex?  I can't seem to make it work, no matter what I put in the ORIENTATION tags.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2014, 09:22:22 pm »

Quoth the wiki,

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Adding [ORIENTATION:MALE:0:0:100] to females and [ORIENTATION:FEMALE:0:0:100] to males would effectively make them behave exclusively heterosexually with no interest whatsoever toward the same sex, like they did in previous versions.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2014, 09:52:33 pm »

Based on my interpretation of what the wiki article says, I think you need to add [ORIENTATION:MALE:0:0:100] [ORIENTATION:FEMALE:100:0:0] to females and [ORIENTATION:MALE:100:0:0] [ORIENTATION:FEMALE:0:0:100] to females to get it to work as it did pre-0.40. This is based on the fact that it claims the fields are [ORIENTATION:<sex>:<disinterested chance>:<lover chance>:<commitment chance>].

You may want to up the <lover chance> value of males-for-females and females-for-males if you want your dwarves to take lovers and then marry them, but it shouldn't be required if what the wiki page says is accurate.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 04:28:03 am »

Modifying as little as possible to get the effect requested by OP, open raw/objects/creature_standard.txt in a good text editor, and do two "Find and Replace All" actions:

Find: 
Code: [Select]
[MALE]Replace with: 
Code: [Select]
[MALE] [ORIENTATION:MALE:75:0:0] [ORIENTATION:FEMALE:5:20:75]
Find: 
Code: [Select]
[FEMALE]Replace with: 
Code: [Select]
[FEMALE] [ORIENTATION:FEMALE:75:0:0] [ORIENTATION:MALE:5:20:75]
As of vanilla v0.40.06, there will be 53 changes total (several creatures have only one gender, or even none).

Result:  Males will have 0 interest in males as lovers or marriage partners; females will have no interest in females as lovers or marriage partners.

Hopefully, you made a backup of the original file, in case you break something.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 04:33:44 am »

As a side note, the numbers are ratios, not percentages/whatever, so [ORIENTATION:MALE:5:20:75] for example, means that 20 in 100 dwarves of the appropriate caste will want to take male lovers.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 08:16:15 am »

Perfect! Thank you!
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 10:22:02 am »

As a side note, the numbers are ratios, not percentages/whatever, so [ORIENTATION:MALE:5:20:75] for example, means that 20 in 100 dwarves of the appropriate GENDER will want to take male lovers.

There can be multiple casts, but a max of two genders.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2014, 03:35:06 pm »

I know that it's a touchy subject, so I'm not going to try and start a debate on what should/should not be the case.  Does anyone know how to regain the old functionality of dwarves only marrying the opposite sex?  I can't seem to make it work, no matter what I put in the ORIENTATION tags.

While we're on the subject, can somebody tell me how to make all the dwarves white? I don't want to start a debate or anything, I just hate the fact that my dwarves are different!

/sarcasm
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2014, 03:39:24 pm »

I know that it's a touchy subject, so I'm not going to try and start a debate on what should/should not be the case.  Does anyone know how to regain the old functionality of dwarves only marrying the opposite sex?  I can't seem to make it work, no matter what I put in the ORIENTATION tags.

While we're on the subject, can somebody tell me how to make all the dwarves white? I don't want to start a debate or anything, I just hate the fact that my dwarves are different!

/sarcasm
Actually, that is possible. :)  if you go into the raws and . . .

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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2014, 03:50:27 pm »

While we're on the subject, can somebody tell me how to make all the dwarves white? I don't want to start a debate or anything, I just hate the fact that my dwarves are different!

/sarcasm

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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2014, 04:05:19 pm »

While we're on the subject, can somebody tell me how to make all the dwarves white? I don't want to start a debate or anything, I just hate the fact that my dwarves are different!

/sarcasm

If one your dwarf is white, all of them are.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2014, 04:50:35 pm »

I think the only thing that bugs me about the descriptions is the occasional dwarf with slit eyes. Yeah, I can see how that's a slightly more reactive pupil shape, and therefore would make sense for creatures that frequently move between caverns & direct sunlight, but still.

And the way that infants are born with neatly braided, very long beards, of course.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2014, 05:02:43 pm »

I know that it's a touchy subject, so I'm not going to try and start a debate on what should/should not be the case.  Does anyone know how to regain the old functionality of dwarves only marrying the opposite sex?  I can't seem to make it work, no matter what I put in the ORIENTATION tags.


While we're on the subject, can somebody tell me how to make all the dwarves white? I don't want to start a debate or anything, I just hate the fact that my dwarves are different!

/sarcasm

yknow, he probably just wants more babies, no need to get snippy.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2014, 05:20:51 pm »

As a side note, the numbers are ratios, not percentages/whatever, so [ORIENTATION:MALE:5:20:75] for example, means that 20 in 100 dwarves of the appropriate caste will want to take male lovers.
There can be multiple casts, but a max of two genders.
Not exactly. The ORIENTATION tags are given on the caste level. I can quite easily create a dwarf caste with neither MALE nor FEMALE tags, and still give it the ORIENTATION tag for either gender.
ORIENTATION:MALE is not referring to male dwarves having specific attractions to others, but rather the chances of the caste to which it is applied being attracted to males.
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Re: Gay dwarves
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2014, 05:22:52 pm »

As a side note, the numbers are ratios, not percentages/whatever, so [ORIENTATION:MALE:5:20:75] for example, means that 20 in 100 dwarves of the appropriate caste will want to take male lovers.
There can be multiple casts, but a max of two genders.
Not exactly. The ORIENTATION tags are given on the caste level. I can quite easily create a dwarf caste with neither MALE nor FEMALE tags, and still give it the ORIENTATION tag for either gender.
ORIENTATION:MALE is not referring to male dwarves having specific attractions to others, but rather the chances of the caste to which it is applied being attracted to males.
Would the males reciprocate?  There isnt a third tag to give them attraction to any caste missing [male] or [female]
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