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Author Topic: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?  (Read 2803 times)

Shadow_Hornet

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bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« on: August 01, 2014, 10:49:34 pm »

I like to know how I could not get killed by bogeymen with a new adventurer.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 11:29:04 pm »

Set your preference to "Charge", using the C button. Attack them quickly, using sharp weapons, as they don't feel pain. If you server a leg, you can easly win. Also, DON'T GET SURROUNDED. They may be quite small, but they pack a punch, and can easliy break your bones with their powerful punches. Also, be quick, have your speed at least at 1000, or else you will DIE, because they're pretty freakin' fast! Just don't wear excessive amounts of armor, charge, slash and kill!

Of course, you may don't want to fight with them. If this is the case, NEVER travel alone at night. If you're travelling, bring a companion, if you don't have any, sleep at a hamlet, town, fortress (At the lady or lord house), lairs and desolate biomes, like mountains, beaches and deserts. And last, if you don't want or you can't find a companion and you can't find a place to stay too, surrounding yourself with campfires (Press G and create one), every direction. When you're  awake, just jump from them.

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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2014, 12:41:12 am »

How do I drop this darn steel shield I got? I found a better shield and I don't want this thing anymore but it won't go away.

Found a candy shield that I want in its place.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 12:45:52 am »

I'm not sure if it's changed recently, but when you're fighting bogeymen, or any night creature, aim for the lower body. Assuming you're using a slashing weapon, they're ridiculously easy to bisect. Most night creatures (barring vampires) have very narrow lower bodies for some reason.

How do I drop this darn steel shield I got? I found a better shield and I don't want this thing anymore but it won't go away.

Found a candy shield that I want in its place.
To drop things, push [d], and then the letter corresponding to the thing you want to drop.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 12:48:31 am »

You can hold infinity shields at once. Alternatively to dropping the armor, have a high rank in armor user.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 01:57:21 am »

Next time a bogeyman shows up I want to find out if I can kill them with my now full set of candy armor and sword.

At last I got to my old fort where I made the items. Had to go to the deepest levels of the fort to find them.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2014, 02:11:21 am »

If I slip up and bogeymen come, I usually just give in to the night or kill program if it's an important character. As an elf with high agility I'm usually able to outrun them pretty well, but it takes forever for daylight to break in "real-time", and they usually end up appearing in front of me and landing a punch every now and then, which adds up over time. As an outsider they tend to come even when I wall myself with campfires, but for some reason never come over or above the wall of fire, wings or not. Such an incident allowed me to test just how long it takes for the sun to come up, from oh say midnight or so, by furiously tapping the "." button. Didn't have the patience to wait long enough
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2014, 02:38:04 am »

Such an incident allowed me to test just how long it takes for the sun to come up, from oh say midnight or so, by furiously tapping the "." button. Didn't have the patience to wait long enough
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2014, 03:18:25 am »

If I slip up and bogeymen come, I usually just give in to the night or kill program if it's an important character. As an elf with high agility I'm usually able to outrun them pretty well, but it takes forever for daylight to break in "real-time", and they usually end up appearing in front of me and landing a punch every now and then, which adds up over time. As an outsider they tend to come even when I wall myself with campfires, but for some reason never come over or above the wall of fire, wings or not. Such an incident allowed me to test just how long it takes for the sun to come up, from oh say midnight or so, by furiously tapping the "." button. Didn't have the patience to wait long enough


what you should do is. run up to them, land a hit, and then run away. if you are faster than them, you can do this.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2014, 06:04:38 am »

bogeymen teleport, making running away not that great of a survival strategy because the one you had left behind will probably be in front of you soon enough.

bogeymen climb and fly, making trying to climb a tree as a survival strategy failing unfortunately.

if you're doing action that are slow (climb, moving) , nearby bogeymen will punch/kick you several time in a round, basically game over situation.

if you're touched in a bone by a punch/kick, you will fall unconscious, game over.

1vs1 is hell, a bogeyman will dodge nearly every attack even from adept skill fighters, while it will have not much problem punch/kicking you, but 1vs1 is the best situation because bogeymen do not come alone, if you can't be extremely lucky enough to kill your opponent, he will soon be joined by another bogeyman, game over.

bogeymen are unaffected by stealth, probably they have blood detection.

possible solutions
- do not be alone, always get at least a companion, it's enough to prevent bogeyman to spawn.
- if alone, be sure to end in a mountain (area you can't fast travel into) , deserts or beaches at night, bogeymen do not spawn in such tiles. I don't think they spawn in water too, so if you can swim and find a single land tile in water, you should be fine
- sleep in a house, but do not sleep in hillocks or elven trees, probably a bug, those 2 civilised location do not stop bogeymen from spawning.
- if forced to travel around, good idea would be to have some swimming skill and travel around river, so you can jump into one, bogeymen shouldn't follow you in
- in previous version you could surround you with the eternal campfire when alone at night, in new version they're not eternal anymore, but if you have the patience, you may still try that to re-ignite them when they go out, hoping a bogeyman will not go melee once it happens


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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2014, 01:53:19 pm »

If you have full armor, and good skill in it, you may be fine with them hitting you as long as you AVOID ONES WITH HORNS AT ALL COSTS
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2014, 01:58:06 pm »

Abusing high agility to hit and run, charging to knock them over, and going exclusively for legs and heads when you attack. Bogeymen on the ground aren't nearly as dangerous, and chipping bones (or severing legs entirely) will keep them there. Occasionally, you'll get an easy shot to the head, which will instantly kill one (at least in 34.11) with almost any weapon.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2014, 04:16:28 pm »

Wrestling is usually effective as well. Break their joints, you cant strangle them as they dont need air, and they dont feel pain so they cant pass out, but that will cripple them. Also use the new FAST attack option. They are small enough that it won't really reduce the damage you do, only make it easier to hit them.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2014, 04:45:26 pm »

I usually take massive levels in melee skills at the start, so I can cut them to death before they can land a hit on me.
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Re: bogeymen. How do I not die to one?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2014, 05:21:08 pm »

If you are in melee range, you can press "," to advance time slowly until they begin an attack, then Shift+A to open the action menu from which you can manually dodge, block, or parry the attack. You can also use this technique to carefully time your attacks to happen when your opponent is recovering from a previous action (and thus at a disadvantage). Also, jumping can help get you our of attack range more quickly, as can running or sprinting (though at the expense of fatigue and the extreme risk of becoming Tired and thus slower than usual).
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 05:22:57 pm by Quietust »
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