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Author Topic: Why won't he die? V.4  (Read 2994 times)

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Why won't he die? V.4
« on: July 31, 2014, 06:42:04 pm »

Seriously, this Goblin Chief just won't die. Are enemies just that much tougher in the new version?

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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 07:02:11 pm »

Seriously, WHAT THE HELL?! This may be a new bug. Maybe you just sliced him so quickly, he couldn't die by bleeding before you sliced him again. Try moving away from him, he will pass-away, if he don't die by bleeding. If he don't, just remove his clothes (No homo) and do some limb-party with his arms and legs! (Assuming you're using cutting weapons).
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 07:06:33 pm »

I originally incapacitated him with an arrow(gave in to pain). Then I went to town on him with a dagger on every part. Kicked him in the head, while unconscious, many times.

In version .34. one or two kicks to head would put an end to unconscious enemies. This makes sense. I think it needs to be re-examined for v.4


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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2014, 07:12:20 pm »

In version .34. one or two kicks to head would put an end to unconscious enemies. This makes sense. I think it needs to be re-examined for v.4
maybe more like 9 or 10... in real life unless you are a legendary kicker or wearing a heavy metal boot or something it's going to take quite a few kicks to KILL someone outright.

did you go for the throat? (neck doesn't count) biting out the throat has never failed me in 40.x and before
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2014, 07:24:31 pm »

I think people are much hardier due to Toady putting pack 40d style pulpings and they're not registering correctly or overstating the damage. I cleave someones neck asunder and their still kicking and don't even bleed out. In the past version that would have been fatal.  Also, smashing someone in the head seems a lot less fatal even at higher combat levels. I'm not sure if this is intentional or not.
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2014, 07:53:51 pm »

Yes, it's very embarrassing when you go for a mercy kill on an agonizing creature and because the game works oddly your strong guy with its good weapon is forced to stab/slash/crush repeatedly more than a dozen of time on usually lethal location in order to kill.
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2014, 07:55:26 pm »

Probably not enough VASCULAR in the brain or skull's bone (animal ought to die when skull fractured N times).
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2014, 08:54:41 pm »

Just cut his head off.
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2014, 09:05:22 pm »

I tried..buff dagger.
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2014, 09:17:05 pm »

Just cut his head off.
That's nearly impossible to do in this version unless you spend a dozen turns hacking at his neck.  And even then you might just cleave it asunder this time and he may not even bleed out.

In fact, I don't even think I've seen anyone bleed out this version...
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 09:18:28 pm »

The Chief finally bled out... after I started shooting arrows at him again. Major artery in the heart.

Maybe he just had really high toughness?
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 09:25:06 pm »

It seems everything is just less lethal in general. At least in adventure mode. Have you seen undead. They're a hell of a lot tougher too.
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 09:45:17 pm »

I have no idea what you guys are talking about. It may have something to do with my SUPERHUMAN STRENGTH but as a human vampire i was making zombies' heads explode with one or two punches at VERY low skill level in striking. Even as a kobold im nearly always getting one attack  decapitations ever since i picked up an iron sword. (it did however take about 30 hits when i was using a silver sword though)

hell, when i WASNT punching the head my fists made LIMBS fly off the zombies in one or two hits.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 10:31:46 pm »

For me, I can usually make people bleed out by removing limbs if I have a sword or axe.
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Re: Why won't he die? V.4
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 10:43:17 pm »

If anything then combat has gotten more lethal due to the pulping, not less - due to big and strong things utterly smashing you to bits being an actual reality now.

This goblin was a bizarre occurrence though, are you sure it was a normal goblin and not a weirdo vampire of sorts?
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