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Author Topic: Crystalline - Cycle 84  (Read 84722 times)

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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 27
« Reply #150 on: August 20, 2014, 01:47:01 pm »

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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #151 on: August 20, 2014, 04:02:39 pm »

So for general conversion, I'm just going with what I had originally for the feelers. Half the higher of the two crystal costs per conversion. (So if you build a feeler, than turn it into a refined, it costs half the feeler's cost, and if you convert that refined into an arms crystal, its costs half of the arms' cost, not the refined) If the two crystals don't share a base type you have to go down to a refined (or a storage crystal and then a refined or vice versa, you can't switch between the two for free) and then go back up. Excessively long conversion chains are probably going to get ignored and replaced with 'fabricate X crystal here if possible'. :P


Cycle 28
The tech-echo that returns from the mysterious tech is peculiar, to say the least. It is a kind of teleporter, but only one end appears to be connected to a power source? This end, as far as you can tell, is not that end; it apparently runs off the kinetic force of the elevator dropping onto it to shift the contents of the elevator into the other end and keep said contents from being flung from their exit at terminal velocity simultaneously. The more you read into the echo's details, the more likely it is this thing only works when you apply a complete disregard for allowing physics to get in the way of getting something done in as little space as possible.

The interference source on the otherhand, is much simpler to figure out once you've actually gotten close enough to see it. They've built a damn fusion reactor without any of the corresponding (and required) containment, focusing, stabilization, and amplifying crystal lines that made up a significant bulk of the Prime Crystal's non-cyclic energy sources, the ones used to power the outer defenses while main power was diverted into more relevant things than ensuring an anti-outsider sphere of influential destruction stayed up all the time. You have neither to power generation nor the multitasking and energy manipulation strength, nor the oversight of a reserve core required to make those series of crystalline without blowing up everything between your core and the reactor itself (which also would probably blow up or something and alert the fuck out of the amethysts if they survived), so its little more than a dangerous curiosity for the forseeable future.

On a less unhelpful note, it does reveal that they likely are fabricating better materials somewhere in their fortress with this sort of power on hand; materials you could steal for your own, better use. You spend the rest of the cycle claiming the near side of the shaft, cleaning up the resulting mess, adding a few repair crystals, and puttting together a design for a simple armed crystal in preparation to initiate aggressive negotiations once you've deciphered the languages while the processor crystals all work together on the signal coming from the surface level of the fort. From what you can put together, it looks like the two groups are having some sort of communication, probably a shouting match, or an argument, debate, negotiations, threatening to curse the other side's descendants, you don't know enough to tell the tone apart, much less what they're actually saying. Neither side is shouting in panic though, that you can say for sure. The brown glyphhut things are standing on the ground, while a couple of the amethyst fortressers is shouting through a hole in a window in a piece of invincitite.

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I keep getting distracted by tinkering with things I might use for the PoE expansion today, so this update might not've been as useful as other ones. Hopefully not :)
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #152 on: August 21, 2014, 08:03:55 am »

At some point, we'll need to research upgrades to the core so we can make more complex crystals.
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #153 on: August 21, 2014, 09:18:15 am »

We appear to be getting close to our max storage capacity.

I propose we add some more storage. Will also allow us to further explore the left side of the cavern, as we produce enough energy to plonk down about 200 High density storage crystals.

Really, I wonder why we utilize Feelers as scouts, when our storage crystals are

a) Actually Useful
b) Cheaper.
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #154 on: August 21, 2014, 09:56:14 am »

Perhaps if a storage crystal is destroyed, the energy contained within blows, causing potential chain reactions?

+1 to adding more storage, though.
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #155 on: August 21, 2014, 10:36:58 am »

Basically, yes. Energy-producing crystals are more likely to overload or short out than explode, crystals that are neither are for the most part not going to explode without effort.
Then again, if something is attacking storage crystals in the first place, explosions are probably not your top problem ;)
« Last Edit: August 21, 2014, 10:40:53 am by Aklyon »
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #156 on: August 21, 2014, 11:43:42 am »

> send a feeler 500 blocks diagonally down and to the left.
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 28
« Reply #157 on: August 21, 2014, 01:21:19 pm »

> send a feeler 500 blocks diagonally down and to the left.
That would add the size of the map several times over and just be a pain in the butt to deal with, even in its own map. No.
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 30
« Reply #158 on: August 21, 2014, 04:52:32 pm »

Cycle 29

Progress is made, enough of it to decipher the blunt argument. A rough transcript is produced by the processor crystals as they continue to work on refining the deciphering of the amethyst's language at your directing.
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Outsiders! We will have new words.

Proxians. Leave. [violent sounding noise].

We are here, we are staying. Bring out One Who Decides.

He is busy. Leave. [muttering?, unintelligible from outpost's distance]

One Who Decides Emergencies then.

[quiet sounds followed by additional complaint-like sounds, too distant for accurate translation]
They are also busy.


He Who Smites will make short work of your unnatural wall if you continue to destroy out structures. We have been putting together how far your skyflame hurler reaches based on proper siege tech and observations of your uncalled for destruction, and are impressed by how you achieve such accurate throwing distance despite using improper ways. You are still Outsiders however. You will leave our claim or continue to be under siege.

[laughing?] If we are under siege, I have not noticed. Nothing of note has happened, we have not even had to go forth and drive you away from a successful breach.

Consider this a formal declaration of being sieged then.

A loud thud was heard sometime after that, but it is rather hard to make out the results of it. The shield crystals the Outpost Fortress were watching from are covered in rubble and small rubble-like rocks.

As the talk ends, the newly designed Arms Crystal is put to the test. The claimed shaft section is filled with it, which are then (only slightly delayed by having to route the signal through the invincitite) aligned so to direct their improved durability to not be spread out evenly in a reinforcing pattern, and instead to defend from impact from the top end as well as possible. Outpost Cavern is told to redirect energy towards more storage crystals while you refine some no longer relevant feeler crystal.

Cycle 30

More thuds, followed by more clattering of rubble and generally loud noises directly above the shield crystals who are no doubt scratched up and dirty by now. You also see the Proxians rush back towards their huts, having apparently finished talking to their 'besieged' antagonists. One was struck in the head by several fragments of rock that flew off in the direction of their retreat, and now is annoyingly bleeding all over the shield crystal sitting above the core and generally leaving enough liquids to soak the surrounding dirt and pool on top of the shield. The camoflauge is adjusted to compensate for the mess and you move on to other things of better importance, like continuing to convert (and in a single case, build and then convert) feeler crystal that can serve better use and generally refining things that can be refined to make things look nicer (and produce more), and directing Outpost Fortress to see via thorough tech-echos, if one of the not-quite-innumerable wires inside the nearby invincitite is a communications link. Some more repair crystals are added as well.

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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 30
« Reply #159 on: August 21, 2014, 05:40:11 pm »

First priority should be on refining pseudocrystal about to decay.
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 30
« Reply #160 on: August 21, 2014, 06:49:27 pm »

> with all these surface goings-on we realy should get our core further down. Can we just form a shaft below it and let it drop like 30 blocks then reconnect?
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 31
« Reply #161 on: August 23, 2014, 09:57:45 am »

Cycle 31

With some worry in hand over the siege above, you ponder (and redirect the processors towards) a way to only move yourself. If you knew how to make your core, a reserve one could be made further down. But you do not, and the easy way is thus ruined. If there was free space below you, you could slice apart the connection to the shield crystal above you (and the nearby Low-Q) and make a controlled drop. But it is full of crystal, and carving a path through storage crystal is not an idea you are particularly fond of. Metamorphosis is a possibility, but fraught with risks. It could fail to do what you wanted, it could succeed but also kill 'you' in the process and leave a different crystalline, it could cause an explosion, any number of things. Most of them things any respectable crystalline would avoid, but those people might not even exist anymore within lightyears of your location. You are by yourself for the time being, without someone to debate you away from the old and almost-forgotten possibility.

For now, you put the problem and its problems aside and clean up the soon to decay Med-As. Not everything has to be difficult.
Outpost Smoothed, reports another house deconstructified except for the underground floor again. Perhaps those glyphs are not the lucky remains you first considered them as.
Outpost Fortress on the otherhand, has more constructive news. It notes many, many kinds of wiring (most of them redundant), but no actual comms link yet. Despite already knowing that an attempted use had happened (the elevator had slammed into the top of the arms crystals hastily and with a great big crashing sound as it got abruptly stopped), it did mark one line as interesting so far: An alert state in the reactor access elevator shaft for becoming blocked going around the circuits as 'Reactor shaft breach: Major crystal-like or rocky obstruction, Urgency level red-major'. You continue to partially assimilate more invincitite while waiting to see what shows up at the shaft.

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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 31
« Reply #162 on: August 23, 2014, 05:02:36 pm »

> can't we reabsorb most of the valuble stuff from the crystals we need out of the way? and slide sideways on a slope to avoid having to go over where the storage crystals are?
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 31
« Reply #163 on: August 23, 2014, 06:57:23 pm »

Could we make a crapton of processor crystals and have them focus on learning how to replicate the core?
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Re: Crystalline - Cycle 31
« Reply #164 on: August 23, 2014, 07:13:26 pm »

You could spend all our energy doing that and probably not get particularly far, although you'd get a lot of research done for everything else in the process. The crystal itself is not the complex part, the part that would be the problem is the core of the core, it is not simply a crystal formation that can be modified, its basically a crystal inside a crystal, inside a crystal, with some other parts of crystal scattered around the crystals. Trying to rebuild a core right now would give you a very nonfunctional outpost that occasionally is aligned just right to act like a subcommander instead of an extra sensor unit/cost refiner like the current outposts minor.
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