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[Aklyon]

(What are you plans for when the map get's ludicrously large? Is it easy to keep track of, or do you have something in mind?)

Well first, I'll shrink the map (Except for the current three images, which I'll just merge as a giant-yet-zoomed-in core region and leave it in the OP under its own spoiler in case we're doing something near the core), but that fits in well with the second part anyway. We'd have things like this instead, which would repalce whats currently using those blocks in the map:

Spoiler: Examples (click to show/hide)

Refined Crystal Cluster
Created by converting a large swath of solid materials, like rock. Also made by refining the structure of Low quality crystal clusters. Approximately equivalent to 10 Refined crystals.
Energy production: 500/cycle
Fabrication cost: 2,000 energy, nearby solid material.
Refinement cost: 4,000 energy, LQ crystal connected to the core. (3,000 if adjacent to another refined crystal)
Level reference: Lv.1/2 energy production (Refined-level/Scale 2)

Storage Field
A massive hunk of additional crystal, giving you far more room to store energy without side effects. Roughly as useful as 10 storage crystals.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 2,000 energy and 1 (scale 2) empty space per section. Connected storage sections give greater results than scattered ones. In emergencies, the empty space can be replaced with 1,000 energy and a low quality crystal cluster.
Level reference: Lv.0 Storage bonus (for storage calculation, for point fabrication treat this as part of No energy production)

(Still need to decide how to fit the points in properly, right now their price is just scaled up times 10 like everything else and makes things rather expensively costly for about the same effect.)

Palantir Allseer Sector
I see you.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 122,500 energy (24.5 points), 61,250 energy to upgrade from Farseer Oversight Sector.
Level reference: Vision Network (+1 (scale 2) sight range for every 4 connected sectors of this type connected), Extended Vision 17 (20 total), Base: Farseer (Refined)

[~Neri]

I wonder if we could just... Flood every room in the fortress at once with crystal?

[Aklyon]

I wonder if we could just... Flood every room in the fortress at once with crystal?

The command room is inaccessible without teleporter access, so we would have to start there first unless either we gained said access, or we fully converted the forgite, attuned or not attuned. Right now we can only use the attuned forgite as a focal point (the core has to focus somewhere to force crystal growth through materials that are not themselves crystal or fully-converted.) or a decent viewpoint, along with the tech-echoes. The partially-assimilated forgite is little more than a first crack at the material and a bad viewpoint, but easy to do.

[~Neri]

What would be the total energy cost of fully assimilating the forgite? And what would be the total separate cost of flooding the rooms with the cheapest freegrow crystal we can make?

[Aklyon]

The first one, alot. The forgite is built to withstand energy blasts of rather absurd magnitude, so we essentially have to tear the stuff apart block by block and rebuild it in our favor to actually convert it and do whatever we want with it. There might be a simpler or cheaper way, but thats what the research crystals have deemed the most likely to succeed way to do it until we've tried throwing high-powered tests at it again (ie enough energy to have an impact on the energy we'd have available to use that cycle for other things)

The second one, 645k energy in feeler crystals with 322.5k needed to convert it all into 516 refineds (alternately, 103,200 energy in normal storage crystals, then 193.5k to convert into high density storage later or 774k to go straight up into energy vault crystals from normals), not counting spaces with teleporters, elevators, or doors in them. It also doesn't count the landing zone, since thats not an enclosed space.

[Rolepgeek]

Palantir crystals are fun, if not particularly useful.

I'd rather not be overtly hostile to the Amethysts yet; let's talk to the Proxians at some point, probably by raising up some sort of red colored crystal through the ground that's made to communicate with shit and has lasers(for communications...and death), and getting their attention, saying we'll help if they agree not to hinder our efforts to crystallize everything that they can't use/isn't affected negatively by our crystallization(our upholding of this promise may or may not happen), and I'd like to enter, at some point, more general talks with the Amethysts to learn as much about this world as possible in exchange for letting them study a few bits and pieces of us a bit(misleading info, of course, with different weird crystals, but they'll give us some false leads too so it's fair).

Also, we may as well just throw 40,000 energy at one of the bits of assimilated Forgite near-ish the reactor, far enough down that it won't break too much stuff.

Other than that, I'm just waitin' to see developments and research. But yeah, I'd like a diplomacy crystal please.

Sorry for not doing the format or doing much in general lately, bin a bit busy.

[The Froggy Ninja]

Its actually the proxians trying to besiege the amethysts and failing badly. They were here first, its their land, etc.

So why are they called the Outsiders? Based on what we've heard it sounds like the Outsiders just plonked down their fortress and are doing some form of deception. Thus they are distrustful.

[Rolepgeek]

Its actually the proxians trying to besiege the amethysts and failing badly. They were here first, its their land, etc.

So why are they called the Outsiders? Based on what we've heard it sounds like the Outsiders just plonked down their fortress and are doing some form of deception. Thus they are distrustful.

The Proxians were there first, it's their land, etc.

That's what was meant.

[The Froggy Ninja]

Its actually the proxians trying to besiege the amethysts and failing badly. They were here first, its their land, etc.

So why are they called the Outsiders? Based on what we've heard it sounds like the Outsiders just plonked down their fortress and are doing some form of deception. Thus they are distrustful.

The Proxians were there first, it's their land, etc.

That's what was meant.

That's what I was getting at. Also I want magic.

[~Neri]

I think it would be mildly amusing if we had a spear of crystal grow out of the lab wall and asked the scientists for our crystal back. Would probs be a bad idea, would be funny to see their reaction~

[Aklyon]

Its actually the proxians trying to besiege the amethysts and failing badly. They were here first, its their land, etc.

So why are they called the Outsiders?

They (the amethysts) aren't Proxians, so they are Outsiders. Outsiders are to be shooed away or sieged away, so says the Proxian Way.
Some answers are simpler than others.

[Aklyon]

Cycle 49

In the lab:

Scientist 1: Well then. I see the lab hasn't exploded while I went to go grab something.

Scientist 2: What you don't see however, is that I was right. Take a look at that plate I setup.

Scientist 1: Hmm, I suppose that does look similar to a rifle bolt impact. Its much too streamlined though, where is the impact burst? Without one it would mean that shot would go straight through the armor and out the back of the man cleanly, instead of only penetrating part of the way and tearing at the surrounding armor from the inside.

Scientist 2: The impact burst is on the wall behind the plate.

Scientist 1: That is a terrible burst, I doubt it would do any significant damage. But I suppose you've made your point, this crystal is valuable for something already. Transknives and heat gloves though, such a waste of material, and so messy. Send word for them to go fetch a plas-saw and heatproof gear, we might as well get a larger test subject before asking them to haul the entire thing over there; and no, laser equipment is about as likely to kill them as it is to cut through the crystal, while a standard powersaw will just get destroyed from the energy output. We are doing this properly.

Scientist 2: You say that like you've forgotten there are comlinks.

Scientist 1: I have not, thank you very much. They just tend to think I'm requesting using fancy gear because I like giving orders.

Scientist 2: Not a false statement.

Scientist 1: Oh shut up and call them already. Please.

You put the details of the arms crystal results away but on hand, theres potential for a proper test-fire soon; with plasma involved it could even look accidental. They don't seem to have noticed you've reacquired a tenuous connection back to the arms crystal column, and you praise the research section for such a timely result. Its a rather fragile tendril and you doubt it could move outwards very far, but its good enough for this, plus the tinyness of it is less obvious than reconnecting the whole segment of the shaft. You carefully, and slowly realign the top of the arms crystal to fire in a way very similar to how a burst of energy or plasma would move if it was reflected off something, in case you decide to go for it. After thats done, you send off a command for Outpost Cavern to clean up the few bits that weren't cleared up last cycle (theres still time left to let the rest sit), and get on with high-powered forgite testing. 40k makes the test subject attuned right quick but not much else, as it dissipates into the surrounding forgite while you quickly dig through the wiring to stamp out a reactor power surge alert signal. You seem to have gotten to it in time, but as a precaution then spend the rest of the cycle ensuring you have a chokehold on the rest of the forgite reactor signals. A reactor overwatcher you were not, but at least these wires are not the same as the crystal fibers the Prime Crystal would have used for wire-emulation if required. A signal in those was rather impossible to catch if you needed an interception without equipment, being at lightspeed and all.

Cycle 50
Outpost Cavern, being the smarter level of Outpost, extends the orders it had previously to the new nearly-degraded material, but waits for confirmation from the Core before acting on them. Meanwhile, the tests continue under the cover of an electronic chokehold Outpost Elevatus helps hold steady. 60k, no effect. 80k, no significant effect. 100 thousand energy however, appears to be the tipping point: You can feel the forgite crack under the pressure involved in trying to deflect it, and demand Outpost Elevatus and all relevant repair crystals immediately reinforce the surrounding areas as you strain the limit of the refineds as well with the amount of energy flowing to finally crack this damned problem. 105k, 110k, 115k...There! 120,000 energy exactly, and the forgite gives in completely to your influence before crumbling. Its takes sometime to reassemble and align the broken material with those new little tendril bits after you let off on the crushing force of energy pouring into the material, but you have it. Fully integrated forgite, and with it the hope of the amethysts if they decide to oppose you with war is crushed.

Spoiler: Fully Integrated Forgitar Half-crystal (click to show/hide)

The pride of the Alterin Imperium's materials research field, renowned for is near-invincibility to energy weaponry, defeated and repurposed.
Superior energy conduit, no energy production. Prime candidate for improving the core with, if you can find out how to fabricate more of the material (and precisely enough for core use)
Integration cost: 120,000 energy, 1 chunk of Forgite. Currently limited to 4 integrations per cycle to prevent dangerous levels of strain on unimproved core energy flow capabilities.
Fabrication cost: Unknown.
Level reference: Half-crystal, Forgite Resistance

You find out some useful details once you've rebuilt your new friendly full access point to the fortress network. Namely, the fortress you've been intruding upon is owned by the Alterin Imperium, the Amethysts are more properly known as Alteri, and they came here as a combination outlying outpost and research station. Being near the Proxians was just awkward luck on their part. They apparently also have a system for organizing contacts, the Proxians have been marked as 'Dangerous' (with a submark under that labeled 'Not dangerous enough for orbital cleansing'), 'Excessively Territorial', 'Isolationist', and 'Not worth proper greetings and negotiations at this time'. With that in mind, you spend the majority of the remaining energy on acquiring 3 more sections of forgite (trying to be careful not to make it crumble so annoyingly these times, and partially succeeding) before finally replying positively to Outpost Cavern.

Spoiler: The Core (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Status (click to show/hide)

Integrity: Intact
Detection: Yes. (not as a sentient crystal though, thus the yellow instead of the red)
Max fabrication cost: 15k

Stored Energy: 51,315
Storage effect: Of course theres no effect, you've past 1 million in maximum safe capacity and then some!

Energy Generation:
Core: 100/cycle
Low-Q: 0 @ 20/cycle - 0/cycle
Refined: 6415 @ 50/cycle - 320,750/cycle
Repair Crystal: 151 @ 50/cycle - 7,550/cycle
Med-As. [5]: 459 @ 120/cycle - 45,900/cycle

Total Energy production: 374,300/cycle

Research Distribution (parenthesis is new unassigned crystal):
Movement - 6
Camouflage - 6
Durability - 6
Weaponry - 6
Energy Efficiency - 6
Storage Efficiency - 6
Non-Typical Crystalline Formations - 6
Containment/Protection(hazardous materials/energy) - 6
Core - 30
Forgite Details - 10
Alterin - 6
Alterin technology - 10
Proxian Glyphs - 6
Proxians - 3
Geology/Environment/Astrology - 3

Location: Subsurface/Amidstfortress of an unknown planet with two 'warring' races on it.

Spoiler: Map legend (click to show/hide)

Navy Blue - Crystal core
Teal - Low-Q crystals
Light Blue - Refined crystals
Orange w/ black S - Storage crystals
Brighter Orange w/ black S - High-Density Storage Crystal
Orangeish Red w/ black S - Energy Vault Crystal
Navy/Blue Striped - Fully Integrated Forgitar Half-crystal
Grey/Black/Navy Striped - Partially Assimilated Forgite
Black/Navy Striped - Attuned Forgite
Dark Cyan - Feeler Crystal
Turquoise with small diamond - Farseer Crystal
Black with Turquoise diamond - Palantir Crystal
Purple/Orchid - Focusing Crystal
Darker Purple - Overseer Crystal
Orange /w Light Green outline - Shield Crystal
Purpleish - Repair Crystal
Dark Cyan w/black cross-shaped overlay - Arms Crystal
Gold w/ blue S - Processor Crystal
Blue w/ gold S - Research Crystal
Gold w/ blue infinity - Server Crystal
Red with small diamond - Diplomatic Crystalline
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Dark Brown - Empty underground space
Light Brown - Dirt or other non-solid material
Grey - Rock
Sky Blue - Empty inside or aboveground space
Teal w/brown diamond - Low-assimilation matter
Teal w/grey diamond - Medium-assimilation matter
Grey/Black Striped - Forgite
Sky Blue w/small diamond - Mobile thing
Sky Blue w/ rectangle outline - Door
Sky Blue w/ question mark - [Unknown tech]
Sky Blue w/ inverted Amethyst T - Alterin impact-teleporter tech
Sky Blue w/ Amethyst T - Alterin normal-teleporter tech
Sky Blue w/ Amethyst O - Alterin force microshield tech
Black - Unknown
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Red cross-shaped overlay - Damaged
Red X overlay - Heavily damaged

Spoiler: Crystal forms (click to show/hide)

Core Crystal
Your core. If this can be replicated, you don't remember how.
Energy production: 100/cycle

Low Quality Crystal
Created by converting materials not able to become better tiers, like dirt.
Energy production: 20/cycle.
Fabrication cost: 100 energy, nearby material.

Refined Crystal
Created by converting solid materials, like rock. Also made by refining the structure of Low quality crystals.
Energy production: 50/cycle
Fabrication cost: 200 energy, nearby solid material.
Refinement cost: 400 energy, LQ crystal connected to the core. (300 if adjacent to another refined crystal)
Level reference: Lv.1 energy production (Refined-level)

Storage Crystal
A hunk of additional crystal, giving you more room to store energy without side effects.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 200 energy and 1 empty space per section. Connected storage sections give greater results than scattered ones. In emergencies, the empty space can be replaced with 100 energy and a low quality crystal.
Level reference: Lv.0 Storage bonus (for storage calculation, for point fabrication treat this as part of No energy production)
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Feeler Crystal
Little more than a hunk of crystal, but a sturdy scout nonetheless.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 1,250 energy (2.5 points).
Refined Conversion cost: 625 energy
Level reference: Freebuild, Removed energy production

Farseer Crystal
An excellent companion to the feeler. Energy production alignments have been realigned for exceptional sensory range instead.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 3,000 energy (6 points)
Level reference: Extended Vision 6 (9 total vision), Removed energy production

Palantir Crystal
I see you.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 12,250 energy (24.5 points), 6,125 energy to upgrade from Farseer.
Level reference: Vision Network (+1 sight range for every 4 crystals of this type connected), Extended Vision 17 (20 total), Base: Farseer (Refined)

High-Density Storage Crystal
Store more, hold more, contain more, add more synonyms here.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 750 energy (1.5 points) or 375 energy (if converting from base storage), 1 empty space per section or 1 storage crystal each.
Level reference: Storage bonus 3, Base: Storage

Energy Vault Crystal
[additional synonyms for 'More space!' continued from the High-density description]
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 3,000 energy (6 points) or 1,500 energy (if converting from lower storage), 1 empty space per section or 1 storage crystal each.
Level reference: Storage bonus 6, Base: Storage

Focusing Crystal
Half conduit, half relay point, all-around pretty useful crystal.
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 3,250 energy (6.5 points), not adjacent to other outposts or core.
Level reference: Outpost minor, Energy transformation 5 (-25% to energy costs within 3 tiles), Removed energy production.

Overseer Crystal
Can do things, unlike the Focusing crystal. (Not greatly, but progress is progress)
No energy production
Fabrication cost: 11,750 energy (23.5 points), not adjacent to other outposts or core. 5,875 energy to upgrade from Focusing crystal, empty space and full cost required to upgrade from base storage crystal.
Level reference: Outpost major, Energy transformation 5 (-25% to energy costs within 3 tiles), Durability 3, Data Storage 3 (basically dumb AI, more general-purpose than the version in the Server crystals), General Oversight 6 (basic independent capabilities if cutoff from core (from lv.5), emergency energy generation of 1/subcycle when cutoff (from lv.6), Base: Focusing/Storage (data variant).

Shield Crystal
Not particularly great cover. But it should work.
No energy production, storage converted to camouflage.
Fabrication cost: 2,500 energy (5 points)
Level reference: Extended Vision (4 total), Durability 4, Base: Storage

Repair Crystal
A good helper.
Energy production: 50/cycle
Fabrication cost: 4,750 energy (9.5 points)
Level reference: Repair 5 (-25% to cost of non-severe repairs, autostabilizes ruined Low-Q within 3 tiles at minimal survival amount.)

Processor Crystal
Because doing everything yourself is slow and complicated.
No energy production, stores data instead of energy.
Fabrication cost: 5,000 energy (10 points)
Level reference: Research 8 (tier 1 speed, almost 2), Base: Storage (Data variant)

Arms Crystal
Avast! Yar've been boarded! *pew*
No (internal) energy production
Fabrication cost: 5,250 energy (10.5 points)
Level reference: Base: Feeler (Refined), Durability 3, Energy Blast 4 (tested by amethysts: Infantry piercing shot.)

Research Crystal
*ominous hummm*
No energy production, stores data instead of energy.
Fabrication cost: 13,500 energy (27 points), 6,750 energy to converting up from processor crystal.
Level reference: Research 20 (T4), Base: Storage (Data variant)

Server Crystal
Its more of a Data Overseer, but you thought of this name first.
No energy production, stores data instead of energy.
Fabrication cost: 4,250 energy (8.5 points), 2,125 energy to convert up from processor crystal.
Level reference: Research Oversight 5 (somewhat better chance for early happenings), Data Storage 3 (Can support research in general ways as well as store data effectively), Base: Storage (Data variant)

Fully Integrated Forgitar Half-crystal
The pride of the Alterin Imperium's materials research field, renowned for is near-invincibility to energy weaponry, defeated and repurposed.
Superior energy conduit, no energy production. Prime candidate for improving the core with, if you can find out how to fabricate more of the material (and precisely enough for core use)
Integration cost: 120,000 energy, 1 chunk of Forgite. Currently limited to 4 integrations per cycle to prevent dangerous levels of strain on unimproved core energy flow capabilities.
Fabrication cost: Unknown.
Level reference: Half-crystal, Forgite Resistance

Diplomatic Crystalline
Its a diplomat. Occasionally aggressive in its negotiations.
[Placeholder description, I'll fill this in once we use one]
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Assimilated matter conversion cost: Remainder of the cost to crystal form +50 per cycle its been there.

Low-assimilation matter
Created by not fully converting low-tier matter.
Will crumble into dust in 5 cycles, leaving an empty space.
Energy production: 50/40/30/20/10 per cycle. Crumbles on the next energy pulse once it hits 10/cycle.
Fabrication cost: 50 energy, nearby material.

Medium-assimilation matter
Created by not fully converting matter eligible to become Refined Crystal.
Will degenerate into low-assimilated matter in 10 cycles.
Energy production: 150/140/130/120/110/100/90/80/70/60 per cycle. Degenerates on next pulse after reaching 60/cycle.
Fabrication cost: 100 energy, nearby solid material.

So, what do you guys want to do with some forgitar halfcrystal? You could add all sorts of things to it, or have multiple different kinds of forgitar halfcrystal that do different things, and so on. Or we could take over the fortress first and then mess with making things, I guess.

[~Neri]

I say take the fortress~

[10ebbor10]

I dunno, I think we should be rather carefull. Orbital cleansing is not fun.

[~Neri]

True.

Maybe we should go Singularity until we know how to make a second Core and move our mind into it? Dig down super deep?