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[Rolepgeek]

Oh, side note, how are we handling BAB between classes with less than full and multiclassing?

Like, would a 5th level Rogue, 1st level Cleric, 1st level Bard, 1st level Warlock have a BAB of +4 or +6/+1?

I would appreciate the latter but I don't know how Nerjin will handle it.

[Nerjin]

I want in, what are people planning so far, also I have a personal problem with the dragons being considered an evil covenant, especially if the hunters are not, the dragons only dual, you have to invite them, how are they evil.

This game is based on Dark Souls. There have been several changes. Also, the Dragon Covenant is evil as it opposes the gods. Trust me, there is a bit of an intricate thing here.

Here ya go!

Hm... Go for it. Seems alright to me.

Oh, side note, how are we handling BAB between classes with less than full and multiclassing?

Like, would a 5th level Rogue, 1st level Cleric, 1st level Bard, 1st level Warlock have a BAB of +4 or +6/+1?

I would appreciate the latter but I don't know how Nerjin will handle it.

Um... The latter. Seems fair enough to me. I think...

[wolfchild]

Could not find the post that fixed the palading

this is still a bit better but not what I was after, up to the DM if he accepts it or not (I'm betting not), otherwise can someone list what classes have been chosen so far?

[Rolepgeek]

Gods=Goodness, Anything that opposes them=Evilness.

In a world where Divine spells are the ones that most commonly use alignment shit, sounds fair enough to me.

Though isn't Itos a god and opposes the attacking of gods? Why is he evil?

I always hate it when people make the obligatory Reaper god evil.

[Nerjin]

Keep that in mind Rolepgeek. Keep that in mind. There is more to the Covenant system than meets the eye.

[flabort]

I might end up needing to take 2 levels in fighter, though...*sigh*

So a Warblade 5/Fighter 1 would qualify to take Master of 9 for level 7, I think, if each of your maneuvers known is from a different discipline. You'd get Improved Duelist for your 6th level feat.

Race: Human
Flaws: 1

Level	Class	Feat(s)	Maneuvers Known
1	Warblade 1	Dodge, Duelist (flaw), Improved Initiative (human)	3
2	Fighter 1	Adaptive Style	3
3	Warblade 2	Blind Fight	4
4	Warblade 3		5
5	Warblade 4		5
6	Warblade 5	Improved Unarmed Strike (bonus), Improved Duelist	6
7	Master of Nine 1		8

Am I right?

[Rolepgeek]

I think I have to take Master of Nine as my eighth level, but I just meant in order to get all the feats I variously wanted. I need Weapon Finesse, for example, for him to be a true duelist(and since I have wield a Finessable weapon anyway...) character.

Also, I may as well take two levels in Fighter or Swordsage if I go with that, because 1/2 of class levels not in each particular class counts; a 5th level Warblade/2nd level Swordsage/1st level Master of Nine has an effective initiator level of 7th for Warblade Maneuvers and 5th for Swordsage ones.

Warblade doesn't give me Improved Unarmed Strike as an available Bonus Feat; I get Blind-Fight or Improved Initiative for purposes of qualifying for Master of Nine.

I mean, I think I pretty much know my progression, I'm just struggling to make the ends fit together.

Also, Warblades only get five schools to choose from for maneuvers; Master of Nine needs at least six different ones.

Thus, Swordsage.

EDIT: Really, though, Nerjin, if you can just give Adaptive Style as a bonus feat to Swordsages, it would be really nice. For reference:

Adaptive Style
Swordsage

Notice Swordsages normally have to spend a full-round action to get even a single maneuver back.

Thus, Adaptive Style is basically a necessity for them. Why not just skip the feat tax(they're the weakest ToB class, by the way...) and allow them Adaptive Style as a bonus feat?

[Silthuri]

Done! I'm still new to this, so simple elven bard for me.

[Harbingerjm]

What languages are available?

[wolfchild]

Hmm it's looking like paladin or Enlightened fist to me so far Nerjin, have you checked out the thread I linked you to?

[Rolepgeek]

As a note, Duelist is basically give me a bonus that is about as or not quite as good as I could get with a shield, except it applies to touch AC instead of flat-footed AC, and costs me a feat instead of money. The attack bonus is still valid as an actual noticeable thing, certainly(as is, to a certain point, the AC bonus, I suppose), but I wanted to make sure people realized that instead of just thinking 'it's free +4 AC on top of everything else!'

So...yeah. Anyway, Sheet's mostly done.

Emphasis on mostly.

[Nerjin]

What languages are available?

All of the languages are available.

Hmm it's looking like paladin or Enlightened fist to me so far Nerjin, have you checked out the thread I linked you to?

Hm... Yes I have but I'm probably gonna say... You know what? Go ahead. I'll just have to bonk you down or something if it gets out of hand. But for now I say go for it. But the Hit die is lowered to D10.

Done! I'm still new to this, so simple elven bard for me.

Accepted. Though you should put +X to Stat [LA Bonus] under the racial features thing. Just to help me keep track.

[Nerjin]

As a note, Duelist is basically give me a bonus that is about as or not quite as good as I could get with a shield, except it applies to touch AC instead of flat-footed AC, and costs me a feat instead of money. The attack bonus is still valid as an actual noticeable thing, certainly(as is, to a certain point, the AC bonus, I suppose), but I wanted to make sure people realized that instead of just thinking 'it's free +4 AC on top of everything else!'

So...yeah. Anyway, Sheet's mostly done.

Emphasis on mostly.

Looking just fine so far. Keep me posted.

[wolfchild]

What languages are available?

All of the languages are available.

Hmm it's looking like paladin or Enlightened fist to me so far Nerjin, have you checked out the thread I linked you to?

Hm... Yes I have but I'm probably gonna say... You know what? Go ahead. I'll just have to bonk you down or something if it gets out of hand. But for now I say go for it. But the Hit die is lowered to D10.

Done! I'm still new to this, so simple elven bard for me.

Accepted. Though you should put +X to Stat [LA Bonus] under the racial features thing. Just to help me keep track.

Thanks, what tier?, making character now

[flabort]

OK, my base stats before adjustment:
Str 10, Dex 8, Con 16, Int 16, Wis 8, Cha 14
Race: Gnome
Class: Evolutionist

I'm considering the Plant Mutator feat, which allows me access to the Plant mutations list, and gives one additional mutation at the time of taking. Your thoughts, Nerjin?

Evolutions I'm thinking of, for you to go through and veto any:
Improved Aptitude (pick 3 more class skills, +1 bonus to skill checks)
Evolve Skills (Extra skill points, I have 20 from (2+int)x4, I'd get 8 more)
Darkvision (obvious what it does, to 30 feet)
Superior Cognizance (Increase Int by 2, plus a bonus to int based checks and skills, would improve my starting skill points from 20 to 24)
Nourishment (From the plant list. Provides food and healing. Can produce two full meals for others, each meal also heals 5 health right now. Can't produce if I'm starving)
Leaves (From the Plant list. I don't need food if I get sunlight, but I still need water)
Bounty: Vitality (From the plant list, requires Nourishment. If I feed the party food, and heal them more than needed, the extra healing turns into temporary hit points that last 24 hours)

If you don't veto anything I picked here, then I have my 6 first level mutations and my bonus mutation from the feat.