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[flabort]

OK, edited my post to include a slightly rebalanced version of Nerjin's feats. Works with all one-handed melee weapons instead of all light any-range weapons, and nerfed the power of the bonuses.

Will edit this post with my own one handed sword person feats.

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Prerequisite: +3 BaB, Weapon Finesse

Benefit: If you succesfully feint an opponent, you may immediately make a melee attack on that opponent as a free action at a -4 penalty.
While holding nothing in your off-hand, you get a bonus to your bluff check to Feint equal to your Base attack Bonus.

Special: This feat may be taken as a fighter bonus feat.

[Tawa]

I'm thinking of a dorf. Who's got the trait for being fat.

That cool?

[Rolepgeek]

What, no, not what I mean-

Damnit. No, I meant I could count Duelist as Dodge for the purposes of getting feats. *grah!* >_<

[Nerjin]

I dunno... I kinda like them as they are now completely stolen from Flabort sprung newly formed by my genius mind.

[Nerjin]

I'm thinking of a dorf. Who's got the trait for being fat.

That cool?

Yes... I... Yes. Just please yes.

[Tawa]

Wait, even better.

Can I use the Unearthed Arcana monk variant of Undying Way? Seems cool, thematically.

[flabort]

He's right, though, it should have dodge as a prereq. Maybe improving the Attack bonus to compensate, though. I'll edit my fixed versions.

Although, you do not get any +LA adjustment since it is an unknown variable... Sorry bud.

No, that's fine, wasn't planning on LA anyways.
Since we still have Con stats, I guess I won't be forced into taking feat X, too, so that's good. Although, feat X is pretty good... meh, I'll skip it. I did promise to keep my optimization low.

[Rolepgeek]

I dunno... I kinda like them as they are now completely stolen from Flabort sprung newly formed by my genius mind.

Yeah and now I can't use them since I only have 3 feats, and at least one of them is taken up by Improved Initiative.

Master of Nine has some steep feat requirements.

I'm being a Warblade, from the Tome of Battle, by the way, if that's alright.

I kinda want to make a crit-build, but that involves dual-wielding kukris, which is definitely not how I imagine my character. >.>

Wouldn't it make more sense for it to have Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite?

[flabort]

Well, you have your feat from human, your feat from a flaw, your feat from first level.
One has to be dodge and one improved initiative. You require 3 more to take Master of Nine. None of them have prerequisites that I can see.
The earliest you could enter Master of Nine is level seven (10 ranks in skills), so you get extra feats at 3rd and 6th.  That's just enough to get Master of Nine anyways, but you DO get a bonus feat at Warblade 5. So you'll be able to take one of the two Duelist feats without finding more ways to grab feats.

You could always dip fighter. Dipping one level of fighter won't cause you to delay your maneuver prerequisite any.

So a Warblade 5/Fighter 1 would qualify to take Master of 9 for level 7, I think, if each of your maneuvers known is from a different discipline. You'd get Improved Duelist for your 6th level feat.

[Nerjin]

@Tawa Link it and possibly.

@Flabort I'm glad. I'd hate to break out the rocks of falling upon everyone's noggin.

@RPG That seems fine. I think.

[flabort]

Wouldn't it make more sense for it to have Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite?

Thematically... meh. We could make it "Dodge OR Weapon Finesse", as part of dueling is dodging the opponent as much as it is finessing them.
Changing it to just Weapon Finesse would make it so the build I presented to you to get Master of Nine wouldn't work, but making the prerequisite "Or" would work fine, I think. Nerjin?

[Nerjin]

Hm... Sounds fine by me I suppose...

[Rolepgeek]

Well, my hope had been that Nerjin would count Duelist as Dodge for purpose of feat requirements.

Or perhaps he'll simply be reasonable and give Adaptive Style as a bonus feat to Swordsages, since it's basically a feat tax for them, and I'm already paying at least one feat in taxes that won't really ever come in handy (Improved Unarmed Strike. >.>).

I might end up needing to take 2 levels in fighter, though...*sigh*

Oh well. Can't have everything, I suppose.

EDIT: Also, as a note, in order to qualify for the maneuver requirement of Master of Nine, I need to take either another feat to get another school, or multiclass into Crusader or Swordsage(I'mma goin' Swordsage)

[wolfchild]

I want in, what are people planning so far, also I have a personal problem with the dragons being considered an evil covenant, especially if the hunters are not, the dragons only dual, you have to invite them, how are they evil.

Character plans so far
 - Swordsage of Izilith
 - Paladin, with the homebrew modifications to make them a not crap class (if you allow them)(also need to go find them again), of the Sun (Sun may be chaotic but i get a paladin vibe from the warriors, AND there are some chaotic good gods that accept Paladins as well)
 - An Ultimage Magus (Sorc/Wiz prestige class), unafiliated
 - An Enlightened Fist (Sorc/Monk Prestige class), of the Darkmoon

[Tawa]

Here ya go!