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[CancerousCthulhu]

So, I genned a fresh world for 40.05. I was all set to spit in the elven diplomat's face when I saw on the changelog that elven diplomacy had returned (or something to that effect). But it turns out my civilization is at war with elves, so I have no idea if the elven diplomat is reinstated. So my question is: Does anyone know for sure whether the elven diplomat who asks for a tree quota has returned, and is this the cause for my civilizations war with them?

[dree12]

So, I genned a fresh world for 40.05. I was all set to spit in the elven diplomat's face when I saw on the changelog that elven diplomacy had returned (or something to that effect). But it turns out my civilization is at war with elves, so I have no idea if the elven diplomat is reinstated. So my question is: Does anyone know for sure whether the elven diplomat who asks for a tree quota has returned, and is this the cause for my civilizations war with them?

It has returned, but that's not why you're at war. World-gen wars are determined not by diplomats but by ethics differences. You will need to generate a new world in order to piss off the elves.

[CancerousCthulhu]

So, I genned a fresh world for 40.05. I was all set to spit in the elven diplomat's face when I saw on the changelog that elven diplomacy had returned (or something to that effect). But it turns out my civilization is at war with elves, so I have no idea if the elven diplomat is reinstated. So my question is: Does anyone know for sure whether the elven diplomat who asks for a tree quota has returned, and is this the cause for my civilizations war with them?

It has returned, but that's not why you're at war. World-gen wars are determined not by diplomats but by ethics differences. You will need to generate a new world in order to piss off the elves.

Thanks for confirming, but are you sure that the new relation of a tree-quota has absolutely NOTHING to do with relations during world-gen? I've never had a world where dwarves were at war with elves from my history of normal world-gen (No advanced parameters).

[Splint]

Chances are if the elves started it it is very loosely related to tree choppery, with the pretext for war being mistreatment of trees plants.

[Zac]

So, I genned a fresh world for 40.05. I was all set to spit in the elven diplomat's face when I saw on the changelog that elven diplomacy had returned (or something to that effect). But it turns out my civilization is at war with elves, so I have no idea if the elven diplomat is reinstated. So my question is: Does anyone know for sure whether the elven diplomat who asks for a tree quota has returned, and is this the cause for my civilizations war with them?

It has returned, but that's not why you're at war. World-gen wars are determined not by diplomats but by ethics differences. You will need to generate a new world in order to piss off the elves.

Thanks for confirming, but are you sure that the new relation of a tree-quota has absolutely NOTHING to do with relations during world-gen? I've never had a world where dwarves were at war with elves from my history of normal world-gen (No advanced parameters).

The elven ethic is quite different from dwarves ethic (they eat dead people, mainly) so they often end at war with each other during world-gen.