Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Proudnerd]

So i just had a werebeast then a siege then a werebeast in my fort during the siege. more than half the fort is dead there were about ten corpse sin the fort spewing miasma and there two guys in  bed that look like raw hamburger including a girl with two broken shoulders and this guy who lost his wife in the attatck doesn't care about anything anymore and has his son never leaving his tile. How he survived long enough to even get into the hospital is anyone's guess and he hasn't been treated for months.

http://s9.postimg.org/wsfg4mdxr/content.png

Anyone I set as a doctor keeps running away horrified when they attempt to diagnose or clean patients, likely because a corpse in the next bed over keeps generating miasma but maybe its because of the grievous injuries. There is absolutely no way to stop this and this behavior needs to be removed at least for the CMD. how is he supposed to save anyone if he runs away horrified from miasma and the like? doctors re going to see the worst of a fort with hacked up corpses and barley alive mangled survivors. they shouldn't be running away while their patient bleeds out or whatever.

[martinuzz]

Either train traumatized surgeons, or make sure all corpses are buried ASAP, so they won't spook your doctors.
It might actually be worth drafting your medics for a while, and let them do individual combat training sessions, to train up their discipline skill.

[Proudnerd]

Either train traumatized surgeons, or make sure all corpses are buried ASAP, so they won't spook your doctors.
It might actually be worth drafting your medics for a while, and let them do individual combat training sessions, to train up their discipline skill.

OOOOOOOOOOORR the CMD could act like an actual doctor in a disaster zone would. Its kidna hard when i ahd 20+ casualties and about 3 coffins. Its like a year later and I still haven't buried all the dead inside the fort itself.

[MrWiggles]

So you're saying that any random person after a disaster is just arbitrarily granted a Title should suddendly gain professionalism out of thin air?

[Proudnerd]

So you're saying that any random person after a disaster is just arbitrarily granted a Title should suddendly gain professionalism out of thin air?

Until medical training is implemented in a meaningful manner, yes i do believe it should be as a placeholder. If you think "tramuatizing" your surgeons so they do their jobs is a more realistic approach to get your medics to actually ignore corpses and getting on with saving who you can  I'm not sure what to say What untrained person irl is going to go "oh my there is a long dead corpse in the next bed! I shall run screaming from it over and over, instead of you know trying to stitch up this still alive but critically injured guy next to the corpse.

[Uristides]

If you think "tramuatizing" your surgeons so they do their jobs is a more realistic approach to get your medics to actually ignore corpses and getting on with saving who you can

It's not "realistic" at all, but it sounds really "dwarfistic". Now if only medical labours raised discipline...

[FallenAngel]

If you think "tramuatizing" your surgeons so they do their jobs is a more realistic approach to get your medics to actually ignore corpses and getting on with saving who you can

It's not "realistic" at all, but it sounds really "dwarfistic". Now if only medical labours raised discipline...

Medical labors raising discipline (or at least Dwarf Fortress discipline) is similar to how stuff works in real life - a person that's been a surgeon for 20 years is going to be less disgusted by a fresh corpse that died by HUNDREDS OF STABS with blood everywhere than a person whose greatest experience with injury was that time they cut their finger with paper.

[MrWiggles]

Medical Labors raising discipline sounds reasonable. Not all of them. But I would say surgeon or something.

[FallenAngel]

Medical Labors raising discipline sounds reasonable. Not all of them. But I would say surgeon or something.

According to the wiki, the five labors that make a dwarf a Doctor are Wound Dresser, Diagnostician, Surgeon, Bone Doctor, and Suturer.
In order of most discipline to the least, it would most likely go...
Surgeon, Bone Doctor, Suturer, Diagnostician, Wound Dresser.
Just my humble opinion.

[cyberTripping]

Discipline from medical jobs sounds like a great suggestion. If Toady doesn't add it, how easy would it be to mod in? I ask because if it isn't, this is too critical of an idea to let pass by.

[Proudnerd]

Discipline from medical jobs sounds like a great suggestion. If Toady doesn't add it, how easy would it be to mod in? I ask because if it isn't, this is too critical of an idea to let pass by.

Agreed Also i think just being present at the aftermath of a battle. Seeing hacked apart corpses and blood flowing freely enough times makes those things trivial. I'm sure new soliders had their balls drop a few inches after seeing the aftermath of combat for the first time.

[King Mir]

I agree with the medical jobs teaching discipline suggestion. Being able to work around corpses shouldn't come with a just a title, but choosing your CMD to be the most level headed dwarf in the fort should be a smart thing to do.

[Rum]

doesnt running from dead bodies train the discipline skill?  or at least contribute to the doesnt care about anything anymore trait?

Doctors just require a better skillset now.  I like to draft my novice doctors into auxillary units for chasing fleeing enemies/killing outnumbered trogolodytes.  It gives them all a nice boost to discipline and insures I have enough dwarfpower to handle dead bodies and situations like yours.

[RealFear]

doesnt running from dead bodies train the discipline skill?  or at least contribute to the doesnt care about anything anymore trait?

Doctors just require a better skillset now.  I like to draft my novice doctors into auxillary units for chasing fleeing enemies/killing outnumbered trogolodytes.  It gives them all a nice boost to discipline and insures I have enough dwarfpower to handle dead bodies and situations like yours.

Yeah, I was thinking i heard that seeing dead bodies itself is enough to raise discipline.
If you don't want to put your doctors in the military, you could theoretically just have one doctor, with little to no other labors enabled, so he'll have nothing to do but keep sprinting into the room and witnessing the corpse until his discipline maybe goes up enough.

[Melting Sky]

I'm not sure what to say What untrained person irl is going to go "oh my there is a long dead corpse in the next bed! I shall run screaming from it over and over, instead of you know trying to stitch up this still alive but critically injured guy next to the corpse.

I don't know of a single real world doctor that would be up for performing surgery with a rotting human corpse decaying in their operating room. Not one.