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Grahar

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Can [SPOILERS] Mate?
« on: July 26, 2014, 07:37:32 pm »
In my current world, I have unique monitor demons which are ruling different goblin civilisations. It seems that they belong to the same species (they are not "The only one of its kind" but "One of the only one of its kind"). One is female, the other one is male. Is it possible or them to generate offspring?
Oh, and I can't just wait and hope for the best, since I killed the female one while she was busy killing her subordinate lady.
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Re: Can [SPOILERS] Mate?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2014, 07:40:06 pm »
Quote from: Grahar on July 26, 2014, 07:37:32 pm
In my current world, I have unique monitor demons which are ruling different goblin civilisations. It seems that they belong to the same species (they are not "The only one of its kind" but "One of the only one of its kind"). One is female, the other one is male. Is it possible or them to generate offspring?
Oh, and I can't just wait and hope for the best, since I killed the female one while she was busy killing her subordinate lady.

I don't know for sure, but if demons run on the same mechanic as entities, though randomly generated, so long as the are the same 'creature', they should IF they are 'married', if they don't run as entities then they should reproduce like animals.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 07:44:50 am »
i believe that they don't have a [CHILD] tag (correct me if im wrong, but i think demons don't, while night creatures do) so this will probably prevent them from having any children
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 04:44:40 pm »
Not having a [CHILD] tag does not hinder dragons from breeding. They don't breed in fortress mode, but in the world history they do.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 11:57:05 am »
Quote from: Grahar on July 27, 2014, 04:44:40 pm
Not having a [CHILD] tag does not hinder dragons from breeding. They don't breed in fortress mode, but in the world history they do.

The problem with that is dragons are egg layers, which now skips the child tag, and causes them to hatch into adults, unless the DO have the tag.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 02:58:58 pm »
Since they're intelligent, they would need to wed to have offspring. And I'm pretty sure they are unable to do so since they themselves lack a proper entity.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 05:57:46 pm »
So in short, no, they won't breed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 10:04:22 pm »
Toady just removed the need for a child tag altogether, didn't he?  So that shouldn't matter anymore.  Being married definitely would, but there's also the matter of gender.  Aren't demons sexless?
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 11:16:18 pm »
Quote from: Telgin on July 30, 2014, 10:04:22 pm
Toady just removed the need for a child tag altogether, didn't he?  So that shouldn't matter anymore.  Being married definitely would, but there's also the matter of gender.  Aren't demons sexless?
He didn't remove the need for a child token, what he did was remove the need for a child token on egglayers.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2014, 12:07:38 am »
Quote from: Telgin on July 30, 2014, 10:04:22 pm
Being married definitely would, but there's also the matter of gender.  Aren't demons sexless?

Not all.  You might see male and female demons in legend mode, and some generated demons have only one gender.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 07:39:25 am »
Quote from: i2amroy on July 30, 2014, 11:16:18 pm
Quote from: Telgin on July 30, 2014, 10:04:22 pm
Toady just removed the need for a child tag altogether, didn't he?  So that shouldn't matter anymore.  Being married definitely would, but there's also the matter of gender.  Aren't demons sexless?
He didn't remove the need for a child token, what he did was remove the need for a child token on egglayers.

Hmm, maybe so.  The devblog says:

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•removed requirement that a creature have a baby/child state to breed completely

Which may just not be specific enough.  I haven't actually tested it or anything.
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Re: Can [SPOILERS] Mate?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 08:23:54 am »
Quote from: Telgin on July 31, 2014, 07:39:25 am
Quote from: i2amroy on July 30, 2014, 11:16:18 pm
He didn't remove the need for a child token, what he did was remove the need for a child token on egglayers.

Hmm, maybe so.  The devblog says:

Quote from: Toady
•removed requirement that a creature have a baby/child state to breed completely

Which may just not be specific enough.  I haven't actually tested it or anything.
The requirement for CHILD/BABY was removed from egglayers in version 0.40.05 - the above mentioned devlog entry is for the next version (0.40.06), which would suggest that the change will apply to all creatures.
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Re: Can [SPOILERS] Mate?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 07:44:12 pm »
Quote from: Grahar on July 26, 2014, 07:37:32 pm
In my current world, I have unique monitor demons which are ruling different goblin civilisations. It seems that they belong to the same species (they are not "The only one of its kind" but "One of the only one of its kind"). One is female, the other one is male. Is it possible or them to generate offspring?
Oh, and I can't just wait and hope for the best, since I killed the female one while she was busy killing her subordinate lady.
this is a good question and we need to investigate it.
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