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Author Topic: Ability to Control how hard your dwarves work, Labor Attitude  (Read 911 times)

mnjiman

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Dwarves will work and complete their tasks, and will take breaks normally after a task is complete and they have a certain desire that needs to be fullfilled (Hunger, Thirst, Tiredness). Once they have fulfill their need, they go back to work if their is a task to do. They may also stop mid way if one of their desires become unfulfilled for too long and starts to become an issues (starving,dehydration, etc.)

My proposed suggestion is to have the ability to set your dwarves labor attitude (how hard and long they will work) to either "Relaxed","Casual","Normal","Over-Worked", or "Slavery".

A Fortress may not be able to use these setting right away. They must wait until they gain a Count or Duke. An Royal Admin will come with the duke for fulfill this role.

The purpose of this will help with tantrum spirals and over all happiness levels. This will also assist with being able to complete tasks faster if they need to be. However the higher a work setting you have, negativity thoughts will be given to your dwarves. However, a lower setting will give happiness thoughts to your dwarves at the price of your fortress work activity being slowed down.

This will also give players the ability to run their fortresses with more control. If you have a really good fortress, then running it on over worked for a period of time can be affordable. However the longer your have this setting on the more accumulative negative thoughts will occur. This may not be an issue however if you have a strong internal guard system in place with your Captain of the Guard.

To give an example of what each setting:


Relaxed: Your dwarves will work if it makes them happy too or not at all, depending on their likes/dislike and beliefs. If they have a need that needs to be fulfilled they are more then likly to drop what they are doing and address it. Dwarves that have a lazy out look on things will more then likly work at a slower pace. Having it on this selection will occur more positive thoughts on your dwarves. Dwarves that have an outlook of a hard working attitude may dislike the way the fortress is currently ran. Examples, Happy thoughts from this mode 35+, negative ones from hard working dwarves only -5

Casual: All your dwarves will work no matter what. In terms of productivity this is a step up for from relaxed, however your dwarves will less likly drop their tasks and address basic needs unless its lingered for too long (about half the length to go from just being hungry to starving.) Majority of your dwarves will gain a small increase in happy thoughts. Example, Happy thoughts gained from this mode about +10.

Normal: Currently how DF handles work at the moment, however they will more then likly actually reach their beds before falling asleep.

OVer Worked: All your dwarves productivity is increased with a sacrifice with some happy thoughts. Lazy dwarves will more then likly have more of an issue with this mode (-10) while hard working dwarves may see an increase from this (+10). Dwarves will eat and drink when need be they need too, however if they drop their tasks to fulfill their needs they may be punished. These negative thoughts will become worse and worse as time goes on, with fight outbreaks likly to occur. Captain of the Guard recommended.

Slavery: Your dwarves are pushed to the max and no one likes it. To keep this mode going you need to have a strong Internal Guard system otherwise your dwarves will lash out.  Your fortress productive will be really high and dwarves will move faster here as well. You must take more care with what you have your fortress doing because on Slavery mode dwarves that stop to work are punished with at least prison time or a hammering. This mode is for !!FUN!!!.

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I was thinking more along the lines of this legendary champion, all clad in dented and dinged up steel plate, his blood-drenched axe slung over his back, a notch in the handle for every enemy that saw the swing of that blade as the last sight they ever saw, a battered shield strapped over his arm... and a fluffy, pink stuffed hippo hidden discretely in his breastplate.

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Re: Ability to Control how hard your dwarves work, Labor Attitude
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 11:44:55 pm »

I think the word slavery is not really the right one to use here, because your suggestion doesn't have anything to do with dwarves owning other dwarves as chattel. Besides, dwarves regard slavery as unthinkable, though it is unclear if they mean the concept of owning another person as property or the process of using forced labor. Likely the former, i think.
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mnjiman

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Re: Ability to Control how hard your dwarves work, Labor Attitude
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2014, 07:30:46 am »

I think the word slavery is not really the right one to use here, because your suggestion doesn't have anything to do with dwarves owning other dwarves as chattel. Besides, dwarves regard slavery as unthinkable, though it is unclear if they mean the concept of owning another person as property or the process of using forced labor. Likely the former, i think.

Title it "Like Slavery" or something with similar severity without owner ship :P
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I was thinking more along the lines of this legendary champion, all clad in dented and dinged up steel plate, his blood-drenched axe slung over his back, a notch in the handle for every enemy that saw the swing of that blade as the last sight they ever saw, a battered shield strapped over his arm... and a fluffy, pink stuffed hippo hidden discretely in his breastplate.

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Re: Ability to Control how hard your dwarves work, Labor Attitude
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2014, 08:57:55 am »

Well it would be cool if say slavery was an option, but it could be prohibited by ethics (or have consequences from them: insurrection etc.). With multiracial forts it would be cool to be able to split up the 'Labor Settings' (to either species or caste) so that goblin captives are forced labor, and maybe dwarves are leisure or whatever you wanted.

If individuals can be upset at say dwarves in general (or the caste that wasn't in forced labor) then people could have various tipping points as to when they would rebel etc.

Very very cool. 8)

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Re: Ability to Control how hard your dwarves work, Labor Attitude
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2014, 04:26:33 pm »

I guess if/when the caste system is put into place (which I believe I read was supposed to help with prioritizing your fortress jobs and organizing jobs better) something like this could be integrated into the caste system.
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I was thinking more along the lines of this legendary champion, all clad in dented and dinged up steel plate, his blood-drenched axe slung over his back, a notch in the handle for every enemy that saw the swing of that blade as the last sight they ever saw, a battered shield strapped over his arm... and a fluffy, pink stuffed hippo hidden discretely in his breastplate.