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Forgotten beasts fight each other!!
« on: July 24, 2014, 07:09:18 pm »

You guys. There's a gigantic eyeless dove and a three-tailed cat duking it out in the caverns. Is this awesome y/y?
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Re: Forgotten beasts fight each other!!
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 07:48:57 pm »

Neat, but likely a bug as forgotten beasts come from the same faction and normally should not be hostile to each other.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 08:29:41 pm »

Also, I'm thinking of arena combat...  Keep the Dwarves happy by letting them bet on their favorite  FB in the arena, then let them watch in horror at the eventual outcome!

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Given this behavior, I wonder if logic around factions has been tinkered with...

Anyone game to try a Loyalty Cascade to see if these have changed any?

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 08:42:03 pm »

Also, I'm thinking of arena combat...  Keep the Dwarves happy by letting them bet on their favorite  FB in the arena, then let them watch in horror at the eventual outcome!

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Given this behavior, I wonder if logic around factions has been tinkered with...

Anyone game to try a Loyalty Cascade to see if these have changed any?

//Torrenal

I think that they behave the same way. Whats the best way to start a loyalty cascade early on in the game?
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Re: Forgotten beasts fight each other!!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 08:51:45 pm »

In my fortress, the Forgotten Beast Enure Cuquimotharama was slain by the Forgotten Beast Guslo Gusloongkosm Orukakusm, who was in turn slain by the Pond Grabber Uzônggâxu.  (These are the names after their respective victories, obviously.)
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Re: Forgotten beasts fight each other!!
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 11:20:47 pm »

i have also had invaders chase wildlife around, i defiantly suspect that loyalty has been tinkered with.

i will attempt to reproduce (and weaponize) in the name of !science!
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 11:29:51 pm »

Does that mean taming Kaiju Forgotten Beasts to fight other Kaiju Forgotten Beasts? Or at least building an arena in the way of the entrance to the caverns to force invaders to face a FB?
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Re: Forgotten beasts fight each other!!
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2014, 06:07:34 am »

Does any of them emit toxic fumes or something? Maybe it is attacking everyone around, inadvertently.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2014, 06:44:52 am »

Yes, I had two FBs both jump out of the well at one time.  One had an AoE and they ended up fighting each other until the militia could get there.

I feel bad for the janitors, since one of them had noxious secretions, but since the other one was made of sapphire he could just pocket the fragments and come out ahead. >:)
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I'm new to succession forts in general, yes, but do all forts designed by multiple overseers inevitably degenerate into a body-filled labyrinth of chaos and despair like this? Or is this just a Battlefailed thing?

There isn't much middle ground between killed-by-dragon and never-seen-by-dragon.

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Re: Forgotten beasts fight each other!!
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 09:53:23 am »

Does any of them emit toxic fumes or something? Maybe it is attacking everyone around, inadvertently.

The dove had deadly spittle, and the cat had a venomous bite.

The cat killed the dove, but the dove's spittle turned out to have a necrotic syndrome, so the cat died of blood loss soon afterwards.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 10:49:54 am »

Had that happen once in pretty unlikely conditions. An FB spawned on the edge and just sat there (nothing to path to), then a tree grew up, locking the thing between itself, another tree, map edge and a sheer cliff face. Then another forgotten boogaloo came by right on the next tile. As a result, there are two FBs completely stuck in two adjacent tiles (neither had wings), and since all creatures hate small confined spaces, both had been half-heartedly fighting each other for years. With no way of shooting them, caving them in or other ways of ending this safely. Talk about annoying.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2014, 11:00:17 am »

According to the wiki, FBs fight eachother normally, no matter how much space or secretions there are.

forgotten beasts are hostile toward each other and will attack any wildlife or civilized creature they may encounter - but with careful micromanagement, the opportunities are limitless.
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