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martinuzz

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Very demanding Duchess
« on: July 24, 2014, 03:19:30 pm »

My Duchess simply soes not stop making production demands mandates. There is always at least one mandate active, and usually two. When a mandate is fullfilled, it usually won't even take a dwarf week before it is replaced.

On the upside, this constant demand for large gems, and short swords will have my glass maker, gem cutter, and weapon smith up to legendary in no time!

What puzzles me, is that I can't really find any traits in the Duchess' profile that would warrant such extremely demanding conduct.

On the contrary, I even picked her as expedition leader, and for baron promotion, because she seemed to have the least immodest set of traits of the starting seven. "she cleaves to an austere lifestyle, disdaining even minor immodesties in appearance", "she isn't given to flights of fancy", and "she doesn't focus on material goods"
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Anyone else encountered significantly more demanding nobles than usual?

EDIT: Yay! First prison sentence. It's not easy keeping up with large gem demands. Good thing my dwarves love being in prison. I hope the game doesn't bug out when my imprisoned military dwarf switches from civvie to military when his training schedule activation kicks in.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2014, 06:47:56 pm by martinuzz »
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Re: Very demaning Duchess
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 05:40:31 pm »

I'd advise you to arrange an unfortunate accident for this demanding noble. Or if that's not complicated enough for you, you could retire the fort, create a dwarven adventurer, find an evil biome with weather that causes dizzyness, bring it to the fortress and expose the duchess to the contaminant in such a way that she's constantly dizzy, which supposedly stops nobles from giving mandates.
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Re: Very demaning Duchess
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 05:51:57 pm »

Is giving the Sheriff / Captain of the Guard / Hammer the dwarven equivalent of a wiffle bat no longer a viable strategy in the new version?
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Re: Very demaning Duchess
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 06:18:38 pm »

If you wait until the mandate (I assume you mean a mandate) has turned red before fulfilling it, then at least you slow her down.  She won't issue a new mandate until you've fulfilled (or failed) the previous one, so you have some control over the pace.
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Re: Very demanding Duchess
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 07:05:06 pm »

On the contrary, I even picked her as expedition leader, and for baron promotion, because she seemed to have the least immodest set of traits of the starting seven. "she cleaves to an austere lifestyle, disdaining even minor immodesties in appearance", "she isn't given to flights of fancy", and "she doesn't focus on material goods"
http://puu.sh/apxsK/b9f0821608.png

A "good" noble lacks item preferences (meaning absolutely no mandates.) You'll still get occasional demands, but they aren't nearly as obnoxious.

There really should be a "cooldown" timeout after a nobles mandate is satisfied before they make another request.
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Re: Very demanding Duchess
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 07:37:51 pm »

I'd actually created a custom role in Therapist for finding ideal noble candidates...
Assides from some materials requirements (avoid dwarves who like pricey things), I have:

Anger -1
Anxiety -1
Assertiveness -1
Cheerfulness +1
Cooperation +1
Depression -1
Excitement Seeking -1
Friendliness +1
Imagination -1
Modesty +1
Sympathy +1
---
Basically, Happy, unimaginative Dwarves that seek neither conflict nor adventure.

I've not played much in large forts (I tend to lose interest when I accrue goblinite faster than I can dispose of it), so I've only had two forts with barons for any length of time (one for years...) and neither generated any mandates.

But that's all version 34.11.  With the changes to the brain (and currently the lack of a Dwarven Therapist to psychobabelize Dwarves in bulk...) this may need to work differently in 40
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Re: Very demanding Duchess
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 08:26:01 pm »

I've not played much in large forts (I tend to lose interest when I accrue goblinite faster than I can dispose of it), so I've only had two forts with barons for any length of time (one for years...) and neither generated any mandates.

You don't need a really large fort for a baron. I only had population 41 when I got the barony offer from the liaison. I still only have 45 dwarves, I don't even have a mayor (need pop 50 for that I think), yet my baroness became a duchess already.
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Re: Very demanding Duchess
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2014, 10:02:02 pm »

are you killing off your dwarves alot?  seriously I cant ever seem to be below 80 dwarves by the time the second caravan arrives and I even have the option of geting a noble.  Never had a situation where I didnt even have a mayor befor barrony was offered as I usualy get a blob of 30ish for that third migration wave.
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Re: Very demanding Duchess
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2014, 10:22:00 pm »

Low population cap. I try to set mine before embark, just so it's done.
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Re: Very demanding Duchess
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 02:38:46 am »

Indeed, low pop cap. I like generation forts, slowly breeding up in population
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