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[gtmattz]

So in previous versions, when I wanted to do !!science!! in dwarf mode I would mod the save so that dwarves did not need to eat, drink, or sleep, and made them super speedy.  In the new release, how would I go about doing the same?  To be honest I only got as far as realizing that [speed:0] no longer works before giving up in despair.  I am not very well versed in modding DF raws, so hopefully one of you raw magicians can help me out!  Thanks.

[Shadowclaimer]

So in previous versions, when I wanted to do !!science!! in dwarf mode I would mod the save so that dwarves did not need to eat, drink, or sleep, and made them super speedy.  In the new release, how would I go about doing the same?  To be honest I only got as far as realizing that [speed:0] no longer works before giving up in despair.  I am not very well versed in modding DF raws, so hopefully one of you raw magicians can help me out!  Thanks.

Was bummed on the Speed thing, it used to be how I tested while modding, without Speed its making me spend hours upon hours to test simple features now.

[GavJ]

You can still do all the no_eat stuff as you could before.

Speed has been replaced by GAIT tokens. I don't personally know how they work yet, but I think Toady included notes in the raws for where "gait" appears (do some control-F searches). I'm not sure anybody knows how to speed up reaction processes yet, but I believe you can still make dwarves super fast runners with GAIT.

[Shadowclaimer]

You can still do all the no_eat stuff as you could before.

Speed has been replaced by GAIT tokens. I don't personally know how they work yet, but I think Toady included notes in the raws for where "gait" appears (do some control-F searches). I'm not sure anybody knows how to speed up reaction processes yet, but I believe you can still make dwarves super fast runners with GAIT.

GAIT will be a start, I'm fine with just move speed for now if it speeds up hauling and setup in the early fort.

[gtmattz]

Well thanks for the info.  I will see what I can figure out with the gait stuff I guess

[YAHG]

So in previous versions, when I wanted to do !!science!! in dwarf mode I would mod the save so that dwarves did not need to eat, drink, or sleep, and made them super speedy.  In the new release, how would I go about doing the same?  To be honest I only got as far as realizing that [speed:0] no longer works before giving up in despair.  I am not very well versed in modding DF raws, so hopefully one of you raw magicians can help me out!  Thanks.

Was bummed on the Speed thing, it used to be how I tested while modding, without Speed its making me spend hours upon hours to test simple features now.

You can use GAIT to upgrade units speed, STRENGTH to reduce slowdown from carrying things and AGILITY (I think) increases non-movement speed. Changing the racial settings should make your dwarves very speedy but not the obscene speed of 34.11 DFHACK.

I wonder if Stance Climber or making the feet [GRASP] will let you carry building materials while climbing.

[TheDorf]

Well, if you want to, you can start off by making a custom creature variation that hinders muscle layers from slowing them down, and allowing strength and agility to boost walking, crawling & creeping speed. The following raws also hinders stealth from slowing them down, and allows them to sprint without any energy cost:

Code: (c_variation_fast.txt) [Select]

c_variation_fast

[OBJECT:CREATURE_VARIATION]

[CREATURE_VARIATION:FAST_BIPED_GAITS]
GAIT:type:name:full speed:build up time:turning max:start speed:energy use
use NO_BUILD_UP if you jump immediately to full speed
these optional flags go at the end:
LAYERS_SLOW - fat/muscle layers slow the movement (muscle-slowing counter-acted by strength bonus)
STRENGTH - strength attribute can speed/slow movement
AGILITY - agility attribute can speed/slow movement
STEALTH_SLOWS:<n> - n is percentage slowed
it would be interesting to allow quirky attributes (like mental stats), but they aren't supported yet
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:WALK:Sprint:!ARG4:10:3:!ARG2:0:STRENGTH:AGILITY]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:WALK:Run:!ARG3:5:3:!ARG2:0:STRENGTH:AGILITY]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:WALK:Jog:!ARG2:NO_BUILD_UP:0:STRENGTH:AGILITY]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:WALK:Walk:!ARG1:NO_BUILD_UP:0:STRENGTH:AGILITY]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:WALK:Stroll:!ARG5:NO_BUILD_UP:0:STRENGTH:AGILITY]
[CV_NEW_TAG:GAIT:WALK:Creep:!ARG6:NO_BUILD_UP:0:STRENG

Now, we let the dwarves use these gaits. Let's also give them superhuman speed:

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[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:FAST_BIPED_GAITS:4:3:2:1:5:6]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:4:3:2:1:5:6]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:4:3:2:1:5:6]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:4:3:2:1:5:6]

The first step is really not necessary. If you want to, you can just leave the first line changed in the dwarf creature to STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS and just modify the values passed.

I believe these raws should let the dwarves "sprint" at 8700 kmph.  At any rate, they're freaking fast.

Edit: Essentially, the values passed are delays for movement. you could set them to 1:1:1:1:1:1 and they should always move at 8700kmph, even when crawling around. Currently, they should walk at around 2175 kmph, jog at 2900, run at 4350 and sprint at 8700. Strolling should be 1740 and creeping should be 1450. These calculations are based on the text file "gaits.txt", which I believe state that a delay of 100 is equal to moving at about 87 kmph.

[Demonic Gophers]

I think this will give you the best movement speed currently possible:

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[GAIT:WALK:Walk:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[GAIT:CLIMB:Climb:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[GAIT:SWIM:Swim:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[GAIT:CRAWL:Crawl:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]

Copying cats' climbing abilities might also help:

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[STANCE_CLIMBER][NATURAL_SKILL:CLIMBING:15]

[TheDorf]

I think this will give you the best movement speed currently possible:

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[GAIT:WALK:Walk:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[GAIT:CLIMB:Climb:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[GAIT:SWIM:Swim:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]
[GAIT:CRAWL:Crawl:100:NO_BUILD_UP:0]

Copying cats' climbing abilities might also help:

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[STANCE_CLIMBER][NATURAL_SKILL:CLIMBING:15]

Oh, that does look quite a bit better than my solution.

At any rate, I'd still set the delay to 1. Afaik the only limitation is that they can't move more than 1 square per tick.

[Putnam]

Setting it to 0 will probably work.

[Baffler]

Actually, would it be possible to only... half cheat? Like, if a dwarf is "walking" he moves incredibly fast, but when he runs from nasties he moves at normal running from nasties speed?

[IndigoFenix]

You can still multiply speed through a syndrome, which affects movement and attack speed, and probably work speed too.  Try attaching it to a self only interaction.

[Rumrusher]

You can still multiply speed through a syndrome, which affects movement and attack speed, and probably work speed too.  Try attaching it to a self only interaction.

I learn this the hard way when I added it to zombies.