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[Iamblichos]

So... I just had a "something collapsed on the surface"... presumably a tree branch.  It threw a huge dust cloud and penetrated THREE FLOORS DEEP into my fort, killing one dwarf and stunning a bunch of craftsmen in the production area on -3Z.

Is this supposed to work like this?

I have the save if it's a bug, and yes it's Vanilla except for Phoebus.

[neblime]

ouch.
If the falling logs hit constructed floors with no walls or unmined rock/soil below them I think they smash the floor and just keep going.

[Iamblichos]

This was undug dirt, but same behavior.

Silly thing is, the zone I am in is supposedly "scarce" trees and vegetation... its a red sand desert.  Since switching to 40.04, the trees pop ridiculously fast and it now looks like a jungle.  I have to clearcut the fort every five-six minutes of playtime to make sure no "dangerous" trees are above my food growing zone.  Also, I have fungal trees growing through the topsoil into the daylight.

[neblime]

smashing through undug dirt you say?  Try a constructed wood floor see if it does the same (I would do it but i cant dl .04 right now) then if that works try it on rock! 

[Iamblichos]

Only in DF would trees drop grenades instead of branches 

[Melting Sky]

Falling tree branches use standard cave in physics. The frequency with which the trees are growing in a desert biome does however sound like a bug. I'm not sure about the mushrooms growing through the dirt layer above them. It sounds plausible either way, as a bug or a feature.

[Panando]

Silly thing is, the zone I am in is supposedly "scarce" trees and vegetation... its a red sand desert.  Since switching to 40.04, the trees pop ridiculously fast and it now looks like a jungle.  I have to clearcut the fort every five-six minutes of playtime to make sure no "dangerous" trees are above my food growing zone.  Also, I have fungal trees growing through the topsoil into the daylight.

Ahhah! I knew it! DF 2014 Reign of Trees!

[Verjigorm]

Oh god, it's terrible.   It's like a damned JDAM, "something has collapsed on the surface" and then BOOM!   Someone's dead and your dwarves are picking themselves up, I imagine kind of a slow motion, soundless dazed way like in Saving Private Ryan.

ELVES!   They are aligned with the damned trees!  We must dig deeper!

[Nasty]

Oh god, it's terrible.   It's like a damned JDAM, "something has collapsed on the surface" and then BOOM!   Someone's dead and your dwarves are picking themselves up, I imagine kind of a slow motion, soundless dazed way like in Saving Private Ryan.

ELVES!   They are aligned with the damned trees!  We must dig deeper!

I lol'd

Gonna be hard not to imagine I'm not roleplaying Gaza atm.

[Iamblichos]

The only solution to the surface problem is to clearcut every week or so to make damn sure no tall trees get the chance to drop limbs.

The problem of the cavern growth, though... that's just lethal.  Every dirt layer is overrun with mushrooms, and they grow through undug dirt/stone/floors/everything.  When they emerge on the surface, once you cut them down they leave cap-shaped holes in the ceiling.  This a) exposes your fort to enemies, and b) ruins the tiles below it for underground farming, since they are now "sunlit".

If this doesn't get fixed soon, I think the solution is going to be move to a place where there are either no dirt layers (glacier) or a deep stone band between the surface and the 1st cavern.  PITA factor = immense.

[Melting Sky]

To avoid the cave ins dig at least two layers deep before building. As for the shroom problem, that's a bit more complicated. You will need to pave your floors and pick a deep embark area where your caverns aren't right under the surface.

[martinuzz]

Only in DF would trees drop grenades instead of branches 

This is the combat log of a tree collapsing on my llama:

http://puu.sh/akVQG/a5eae3d3d7.png

(reported on mantis)

[Iamblichos]

Boiling... magma.

MAGMA?!?

How fast do these branches FALL, anyway??

[greycat]

Boiling... magma.

MAGMA?!?

How fast do these branches FALL, anyway??

That's nothing new.  Cave-ins have always (well... farther back than 0.40 anyway) produced a message containing the words "boiling magma".  It's not actually magma.  It's just a big cloud of dust.

[Dirst]

Boiling... magma.

MAGMA?!?

How fast do these branches FALL, anyway??

That's nothing new.  Cave-ins have always (well... farther back than 0.40 anyway) produced a message containing the words "boiling magma".  It's not actually magma.  It's just a big cloud of dust.

The name for any stone's gas is "boiling magma" though it might have been more intuitive if the game used the SOLID_POWDER name instead (setting that to "dust" in the stone template).