Good, forum's back up. I've been waiting to post this.
Fuck it,
cancel my replacement request. I'm not in great mental/emotional shape right now, but the guilt I feel for requesting a replacement isn't helping me. I'm not going to be as involved as I normally try to be at this stage of the game, but I'll try to be involved.
Jack:TheWetSheep: In addition to my issues with your predecessor, I have issues with your play. Specifically, your TolyK vote. Even for a newcomer to a very long game, this is light on content. There isn't a case, and the questions consist of a rhetorical question and a clarification request. Your next few questions to TolyK are a bit better, but you're barely there on him. Considering you've only really looked at TolyK today, there's an issue here.
I can't address your issues with Imp, but would you say I'm the lowest on content today? Many people haven't even voted, and TolyK's and Nerjin's votes are similarly low-content and low-pressure. I realize this doesn't mean I'm less guilty of it, but why are you focusing on only me?
TheWetSheep: Heh. You have to understand that I placed my vote not just because of your poor activity at the time, but because of Imp's stuff as well (which does make this conversation rather awkward, unfortunately). As for the specific people you referred to, TolyK's strategic uselessness, while incredibly aggravating, is something he tried in at least one previous game as town (also, he was making real contributions to the game somehow), and Nerjin's attack both was with a clear and rebuttable reason and was clearly a preliminary statement to be improved or altered soon.
Now, you have significantly improved since my attack. This is good. My vote holds, though, primarily for one reason.
Why do you feel the need to deflect? What makes you so scared of my vote that you feel the need to not only defend yourself, but push me towards a bunch of other players?
Scripten: I am troubled by what appear to be attempts to delegitimize criticism of your night actions by equating it to criticism of your role. (see
here and
here) I am also troubled by your nervous, rather defensive (all the way up to you feeling the need, for some reason, to defend the fact that you were defending yourself) response to a quick, non-aggressive question from someone who was replacing out at the time (see the second linked post). Please explain.
Would it be correct to say that your plan was basically to prime all the likely long-lived players so you could zap a bunch at the end if you felt it was necessary? Also, even ignoring the priming part, why did you feel so comfortable with blocking a skilled non-suspect?
On the second, I have had substantially less time than I wished, and have had to rush my readings of the thread.
Urist Imiknorris: Alright. Did you intend to read my Day 1 stuff later?
I was reading your FoSes in that post as actual FoSes instead of merely things that caught your eye.
They were sort of a mix. Suspicion due to things I noticed that, in my quick initial post, I declared I would examine in more detail to determine what to do. By the way, you skipped a few questions here:
What makes you view Cheeetar and Flabort as the two sides of the conflict? What makes them "both," as in all, of the sides? What is it that is scummy about a willingness to critically examine "both sides" of an issue?
Answer them.
It [the attack on Nerjin] hardly counts as an attack when you back down almost immediately, as you've done a rather large portion of the time.
It was a true attack. Just one that, due to the response (which was a real-life-based explanation that fit the actions taken quite well), I had no reason to continue with. The fact that I am somewhat willing to accept reasonable defenses does not make aggression non-aggression.
I am amused to see you try to justify not including Nerjin this way, with your reasons having clearly been created after your actions (by this standard, the Cheeetar FoS should not have been included. You outright emphasized that FoS.). Please explain this.
But this part does make your goal in your accusation clear. You want to flip part of my attack on Imp around, and put reaching my Imp conclusion about me above reaching an evidence-based conclusion. Why did you prioritize flipping the attack on Imp around over making a good case?
False.
Alright, I shall rephrase. Why is your attack a flipped version of one part of my attack on Imp, and why did you try to make the evidence fit such a conclusion instead of finding a conclusion with the evidence?
what is your read on Irony, exactly?
General thoughts (no in-depth search, sorry): He's come across as stressed and confused for much of the game, albeit still trying to contribute well. Biggest issue, which I think I considered well-covered by others at the time, was his temporary obsession with Cheeetar. Generally, though, he's mostly seemed okay. Bit of a background player, though that's easy when the game's been dominated by self-destructing players (Flabort, MBP...) and irritating non-contributing players (TolyK, Varee...). Mild town lean.
In any case, I look forward to your promised evaluation.
Not now, sorry.