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[Mysteriousbluepuppet]

Heh, that's true. But i do fear that then it would advantage them. They got a survivor they can keep around, and Panic with him render rolecopping moot. If they get 2-3 favorable lynch they got it golden. And the further we go, the easier it will be fore them, knowing what sides they are on and all.

[Cheeetar]

I'm not sure if a Varee lynch is the best shot we have right now. He's been very unengaged in scum hunting, but he's also been unfailingly honest about things, and Toaster could potentially screw us over really badly with his auto. Varee has played mafia here before- would anybody who's played with Varee before clarify if this is how he generally acts?

[Varee]

Toaster: here the exact word of the power
Your unstoppable need to build things causes a random player (including you) is given a random ability that coincides with their role each Night. You may choose to target (excluding you) this as a free action.
There fore technically you can give your self what ever power except if I target someone .......
Slithuri: I will adress your question later tonight.
Jack: I have a feeling thatyour plan might not work. Certain power might not be blockable. Also consider that ability that toaster could technically give himseld any power relate to his role if my target action fail, this might need to some unweildy situation.
Ont the random control power: OMG it toally OP.pls nerf.....
 

[TolyK]

That night, Tiruin actioned me as well, and was de-millered, which is now confirmed by a dead townie. Thus, Tiruin is definitely not scum and very likely town.

Also, whoever targeted me, I'm sorry about that. Unless of course it's a horse. Then just keep it.
<.<

What's all this about?

Waitaminute. I knew something wasn't in my post.

TolyK.
I never targeted you. I hit Cheeetar and Flabort.

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I was sure you targeted me to take away a power of mine. Because you got my Filler Ability...

TolyK: Were you claiming to be certain that Tiruin had actioned you, or was that conjecture based on her loss of her miller auto?

I was saying that since a confirmed town confirmed her loss of the Miller, and her Filler Ability was taken from me.

Not the answer I was expecting.

TolyK: Did you choose to lose a power called "Filler Ability" N1?  If not, what power did you choose to lose?

I did lose "Filler Ability".
So it was you who targeted me N1. And Tiruin. Gotcha.


So,
Toaster is a survivor that can control luck.
Tiruin is not scum, but possibly the SK (yes, this is totally possible).
I can say that Varee is almost certainly town.
I was the one that got Varee's one-shot kill.
I'll see what else I can think of...

[Cheeetar]

So we don't know how Tiruin lost her miller? Things are starting to make a lot less sense in my head.

[TolyK]

No, Persus claimed to have destroyed her Miller ability.

[Toaster]

The only catch with lynching me is if the scum have some way to bypass the lock (even if it's one shot), then they'll take the chance to off me, and you'll lose the benefits.


Varee:  Given the responses from Web, I'm not sure that I could dictate the result of that ability, especially if it's modified based on the role on the person.  Plus, I doubt that Web would let me give myself unlynchable and kill immune.

[Varee]

Toaster:It ture that it is base on your role name but I am sure you can find a way to dictate it. Maybe wuba will let you make up a power name relate to the role and he can assign the power. I dont think there anything stopping me from building like Bomb shelter and faraday cage for someone ......


Silthuri:

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Varee

1.Then what, exactly is the best way to get info?

1. Finding contradiction and interact only when needed is what i normally do. Being vague is a part of it too.


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2.You're attacked for not voting anyone so you FoS me? Why didn't you just vote me? Why did you choose me if I'm no more suspicious to you than anyone else?

I was looking for a respond, apparently it doesn't come until it was no longer realevent.

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For all you know i could have been causing distraction and trying to get something to happen so why dont you just ignore me.......

3.I'm not sure what to think of this. I don't know if you're playing mind games again or if you're trying to seem inconspicuous. You're acting very oddly. I've played in two games with you and you're behaving rather oddly in this one. I can't quite explain it, but something's up.

That sentence mean exactly what It say. Anyone could be lying and distracting. I migh not have phase it very well though.
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4.So Look like i wont learn anything about my power today eithier. the houseowner came to an early demise ...
There not only Death power theft, one of my power was stolen too so there someone that can take people power out there.
Hey and both people that is trying to get me lynch is dead yeah!
Wait wait dont point fingers yet. thoses two dont only suspect em but they are one that push thoses who are less than active.
Enough nonsense !

5.@ bold bits: What are you trying to do here? You're drawing unnecessary attention to yourself by making little comments. Then you're throwing the suspicion on the other "less than active" players and trying to divert from you. I don't understand the point of any part of what you said in the above quote.

I think i explained that as sarcasm in my other post. Also I feel that it might be something interesting for other to consider, It  is better coming from me than from someone else right?
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Reads are rather hard. I am not comfortable with doing them. I can talk about my power loss though. It a oneshot kill that ignore protect. it was stolen last night.

6.That's no excuse not to do reads. You keep finding excuses not to scum hunt. I'm not inclined to believe you ever even had the kill. And if you did, how did the kill fit in with you "building houses" power? How does the kill and the alleged building of houses relate to your role?

True, I dont really scum hunt, The kill part is confirmed though and I got no clue how it fit in, you gotta ask wuba later maybe?
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On the other note, Mr President. I am interested by you "Pardon" and wondering what exactly is it. It seem to be somesort of day power but are you willing to share that information?

7.Funny how you never pointed this out until Nerjin started coming after you...

I normally dont talk to people that didnt talk to me, I dont really know what to say about this though.
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There atleast three other people that is even less active than me and that dosent make them any less likely to be a scum so why dont those that is voting me try get some useful info out of wolf or scripten. Heck even tirurin can be in league with tolyk to make up the roose about miller claim.

8.Now your encouraging everyone else to go after the less active people and leave you alone. You're trying to point people in a direction in which they're refusing to go. You just seem to be trying to push the suspicion elsewhere.

Is there a problem with that?  They are refusing to acknowledge that fact and they are using it against me so I am trying to clear up the point.
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Me and myself. I understand that i dont do much right now but am still buffing people every night. That might not be very beneficial, in fact it wont change at all as my auto willbe redacted upon death. Let me just full claim right now seeing that people dont really care to change their mind right now. The auto is random and i can take a free action to target it. The power i have been using nightly is a protect. On flabort n 1 and tolk n2.

9.@bold: I always thought people only got to use one action a night. Has my world been a lie?

Well the auto action is free, the exact wording is a few post before this one.
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1. I am not doing any less hunting than slithuri or wolf. 2.It might be ture that I offer more than just your typical scum hunting question but I will say that they are my point of view. 3. I dont see harm in offering alternate perspective, why should all the people focus on a single entity that is most like to be lynch anyway. Boarden your vision a bit wont hurt you. while it is less focus, in the end that might win you the game.
It just not i dont want to give read, it is just too much for me to handle.4. I tried to not get involve and people keep making me get involve and now when i tried get involve people say I am distracting/annoying. you guys are sure hard to please.

1. You... sort of are. You hadn't even voted until recently. I posted a nice sized post on why I thought Flabort was scum. 4mask, I believe has contributed more than I.
2."Offer more tan your typical scum hunting question?" Explain what you mean please.
3. This is a decent point. Except your alternate perspective seems to be: "LOOK AT THE LURKERS!"
4. People want you to actively hunt. Just getting in here and talking about you powers isn't helping. Question and pressure other people. Don't just sit there consumed by yourself.

I dont think that lynching people d1 is a right thing to do but The majority disagree apparently. I dont think flabort is a scum but majority believe he is. So why should I go against the majortieity, that doesnt really matter much so i just abstain.
2. Well most of the stuff you have been quoting is pretty weird, dont you think so ?
3. "Look at me, Am Not a LURKER but my post is so useless and counter productive I should have been lurking" right?
4. That go against me in general. I dont like asking one qeution a day and answering one the next day. It is pretty unweildy. Also am lazy so I might try actively hunting but not anytime soon so sorry to dissapoint.

PPe this large post are very hard to make .... It keep adding random tags everywhere ..... I dont understand why  T_T

[Scripten]

I'm not sure if a Varee lynch is the best shot we have right now. He's been very unengaged in scum hunting, but he's also been unfailingly honest about things, and Toaster could potentially screw us over really badly with his auto. Varee has played mafia here before- would anybody who's played with Varee before clarify if this is how he generally acts?

In the last game I played with him, the CYOMask game, he acted very similarly. He was mostly engaged with his own powers, to the point where he gimped me for almost the entire game. (I was town, and expected that only a scum players would attack a town player at random.) It seems to me that he's not a particularly good asset for town and is fairly obsessed with having people talk about his powers. That said, he was a resurrecting townie, not scum, and cost us several days of deliberation.

[Varee]

Huh I thought this might be a common thing but apparently not. It is something to do with paranoid and trust issue. When someone engage on thing about themself, they atleast know that They are holding the truth. When engaging on other people, there also issue on who to trust or what to trust. It is really hard to tell wheather peopel is honest or they are sarcastic, lying, devious or just joking around. It help to know atleast part that you  are talking about myself is true. It also bring other out of their comfort zone.


 I think I might get over it sometime, hopefully soonish.The effect I am getting is more of a pressure than comfort though.

[Toaster]

I checked with Web and my assumption was correct; if it indeed says "based on their role" then I can't influence what it gives.

[Varee]

Well but you can choose to get a power every night at the very least as I think I cnat not use the power. Even if my target action fail I think the build will happen anyway.

[Tiruin]

Clarification is in; we are go for lockdown.  I sent in the request to lock down everyone, pending further plans being made.

Query--I saw Cheeetar(?) say you got this from NQT but...NQT has no Autos?

[Tiruin]

EBWOP: ^ I also saw 'everyone but Tiruin'.
Where did that even come from?

Tiruin, i'm voting you because i can't understand how that panic could be a town ability. Complete Lockdown is WAY too strong for a townie, especially when another of the townies had the ability to combo with it.  The only way to balance this would be scum that could ignore it, which would make the ability basically useless and an hindrance to town.

But, as a scum tool, it's strong  but counterable. Indeed, the random chance could be used to defeat it, and the combo could not be used, and after a few turn the game'd be back to normal.

It's a completely meta analysis, but i can't see your actions as Town, and so you get my vote.

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So you vote me on shortsightedness and blame of 'omg so op power'?
Wow. That's...wow. >_>
It's something I could really defend. Just like me trying to explain the mod's idea with me.

*looks at orange part*
Nice note, puppet. That's a strange wording which is very different from your reason. Could you clarify more? Because its not making ANY sense. You say its something something comparison. I don't get it.

MBP for now.

So we don't know how Tiruin lost her miller? Things are starting to make a lot less sense in my head.

What's the sense you got here, buddy?
The same sense you got in D1? MMmmm?

That night, Tiruin actioned me as well, and was de-millered, which is now confirmed by a dead townie. Thus, Tiruin is definitely not scum and very likely town.

Also, whoever targeted me, I'm sorry about that. Unless of course it's a horse. Then just keep it.
<.<

What's all this about?

Waitaminute. I knew something wasn't in my post.

TolyK.
I never targeted you. I hit Cheeetar and Flabort.

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I was sure you targeted me to take away a power of mine. Because you got my Filler Ability...

...Uh huh.
So I got an ability that IS JUST THE SAME AS PANICKED IN DETAIL AND EFFECT, for some reason?
Because its very much like YOU TARGETED ME given the usage of that power there, now.
So tell me TolyK, how in the world would you have a power of...yours..when said power is a detriment if you have it?
>_>

[Tiruin]

No, Persus claimed to have destroyed her Miller ability.

And he did (or for you jolly skeptics out there, he destroyed my AUTO).
This was the same time (...err, I got notice in the same PM as me receiving Filler Ability anyway)