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[Scripten]

Hold on, massive problem with this plan.
Mask swap would kill this plan, as would redirects, protects, and immunities.
I just SEE this plan failing (at least one of the kills), then it turning out that flabort is scum anyways. Totally possible imo. Also, we know few masks of yet, and we could ourselves check for a mask-swap or just correspondence between masks and people right before shooting. This cyan-voting should still be for people, not masks.

Actually, this is a great point. Since we have a few confirmed masks, all it takes is a simple mask swap, and targeted kills are invalidated, current information is scrambled, and scum get a bunch of free kills. Not a good situation for town.

[TolyK]

Actually, Toaster mentioned this before. Just remembered.

4mask:

Everyone: I have a possible plan.

Before he shoots twice, how do we know he's town?
In any case, Mask Swap wrecks your plan hard; we'd need some trustworthy Peek action going on as well.

Also, full mask claim now is bad because they can just block Flabort.  That said, if people would stop claiming their masks already...

It's an interesting plan, but I'm not sold on its merits.

Full mask claim tomorrow would also be bad. We need only for people to peek, twice for each mask. That's 4 peeks from at least two (three) different people, and for all of them to hit the targets required.
Hmm... A chat between the two kill targets might be a good idea, by the way.

[notquitethere]

The band strikes up a waltz and nobody has to dance with a corpse yet.

"What would call your mask?" asks Lemon to their partner.

"It's ochre," says Ochre, "it's like terracotta but more orange."

"No, I mean the shape, what's that supposed to be? An aardvark?"

Masks: Lemon, Ochre, Scarlet, Ultramarine, Turquoise, Brown, White, Chrome, Black, Beige, Emerald, Puce

Guest List - Formal Requests For Unmasking
Reverie
Tiruin
Toaster
Persus13 - Toaster
Varee - Wolf, Jiokuy, Flabort, [2]
Wolf - Varee [1]
Toony
Silthuri
Scripten
TolyK - Toony, Scripten, Silthuri [3]
Jiokuy - Tiruin [1]
Flabort - TolyK

Has used their extend: Scripten, Flabort, Wolf, Tiruin

Hammer is 7 votes. Day ends when the hammer falls, or Monday 4PM BST (GMT+1).

[TolyK]

Masks: Lemon, Ochre, Scarlet, Ultramarine, Turquoise, Brown, White, Chrome, Black, Beige, Emerald, Puce

Guest List - Formal Requests For Unmasking
Reverie
Tiruin
Toaster
Persus13 - Toaster
Varee - Wolf, Jiokuy, Flabort, TolyK [3]
Wolf - Varee [1]
Toony
Silthuri
Scripten
TolyK - Toony, Scripten, Silthuri [3]
Jiokuy - Tiruin [1]
Flabort - TolyK

Has used their extend: Scripten, Flabort, Wolf, Tiruin

Hammer is 7 votes. Day ends when the hammer falls, or Monday 4PM BST (GMT+1).

I'm voting twice! And either someone had a double vote, or one of my votes count, or 4mask has his vote back.

[notquitethere]

Vote counting is hard.

[TolyK]

I've also noticed that I'm about to be lynched. Just 13 more hours...

[Persus13]

I can prove my towniness by being a super-vig, starting day 2. Obviously if I don't, I'm a lying scum and you would lynch me.

How does this prove your towniness?

Persus, you realize that unless you give me a good reason not to, you're probably going to be one of my Vig targets tomorrow? And I'm thinking TolyK, because I've been suspecting TolyK most of the game so far anyways.

If I was scum, why would I claim?

Also I'm a Disheveled Cardinal.

4maskwolf, why is your plan for proving flabort town involving him double vig killing two people? That does not sound like a good vig plan to me.

Screw it, this day may be taking forever, but ending it now isn't productive. Extend.

[4maskwolf]

I can prove my towniness by being a super-vig, starting day 2. Obviously if I don't, I'm a lying scum and you would lynch me.

How does this prove your towniness?

Persus, you realize that unless you give me a good reason not to, you're probably going to be one of my Vig targets tomorrow? And I'm thinking TolyK, because I've been suspecting TolyK most of the game so far anyways.

If I was scum, why would I claim?

Also I'm a Disheveled Cardinal.

4maskwolf, why is your plan for proving flabort town involving him double vig killing two people? That does not sound like a good vig plan to me.

Screw it, this day may be taking forever, but ending it now isn't productive. Extend.

Apparently someone didn't read the OP.

Scum can only make one kill maximum, so if all town vigilantes (of which I doubt there are any other than possibly Flabort) hold their kill and two or more kills were made, then even if the scum made a kill, they could not have made both, and since Flabort would be the only town vigilante to shoot at least one of the kills would be made by him. Since if he was scum, only one kill would happen.

Also, why the hell are you a cardinal? You had a kill and now have an inflate, neither of which seem particularly fitting to either the role in the Catholic Church or the bird.

[notquitethere]

Persus13 has extended the game. Hammer is 7 votes. Day ends when the hammer falls, or Tuesday 4PM BST (GMT+1).

[ToonyMan]

We'll run out of people who can extend, eventually.

[Varee]

Well i will be conpletely absent on tuesday so just a head up i guess. I have too mich to worry abput to try make sense of the situation currently anyway.....

[TolyK]

Alright, just completed a read-through, results in a little bit.
Damn, this dance has been going on for a week already...

[TolyK]

More or less raw copypasta.

Unstructured first part:
- Reverie #74 plan
- Tiruin #130 is Black #141 omgus-like vote
- Toaster asks about third party
Idea: Toaster could be scum due to being a lover, if he gets voted off someone else does as well and that person would want to keep him alive.
- #109 newbie card (seems fake), #138 fake claims ultramarine
- Jiokuy #108 talks about intermittent with Flabort, seems insignificant at the time
- Scripten #142 #151 #153 changeling case building up
- 4mask #140 would claim if he was changeling'd, "crapshoot for scum", #149 more likely for changeling to be town than scum, #153 more changeling stuff (notes here are warbled)


Structured second part:

Flabort obviously random voting and saying that the changeling is "interesting" on #170
Varee claims first changeling #183
What is he doing with six unspent points?
Flabort #188 claims to have a plan to fix Scripten
#190 Tiruin says that Varee is town
#191 good Scripten reasons for 4mask and Varee lynches.
#193 Tiruin says more damage could be done.
#196 Varee says his points were used on unblockable and unrandomizable
#197 newbish self-saving
#208 Tiruin do no bloody lynch Varee

Possible idea - 4mask is scum killer and we don't have kill because his buddies changeling while he cleanses

My post at #231

#241 horrible flabort logic about who to vote
Tiruin trying to say that 4mask is being selfish and thus not scum

#326 4mask fullclaim

#348 Jiokuy votes Varee
#350 Silthuri seconds Varee lynch

#353 bs reasons Varee has, same in #355

#416 start of my vote amount questioning
Suspicion order: Reverie, 4mask, Tiruin (slightly), Silthuri (fos), Scripten, Flabort, Silthuri (vote).
#448: Job reference, Flabort gets suspicious. And says: #452
And then chaos, which I still can't quite make out.

#482 4mask tried to get me lynched so I couldn't prove tomorrow.
#492 my plan for town-proving, and #493 4mask plan for Flabort proof.

Persus claims to be Scarlet on #523
#537 Flabort gives the vigkill cyan idea

I really think we should vote Varee, and 4mask still has my suspicion.

[Reverie]

I'm here, and a bit overwhelmed.

First of all, I'm against mass-mask-claiming this early, and would like for information roles to have a chance to share a couple of results before their masks are discovered.
I'm also pretty leery about this vig plan to prove towniness, though it's a potential intel gold mine if we decide to play it out. Roleflip or not, vig plan or not, there should be lots of information potential during tomorrow's dance and I no longer feel hesitant about lynching Varee.

[4maskwolf]

List of things as I know them:
Reverie: Claimed track.  Current assumed role: track
Tiruin: Claimed Black.
Toaster: Proven unable to vote.  Current known role: unable to vote.
Persus13: Claimed Crimson.  Has admitted to having the kill, claims former vigilante.  Current assumed role: afflicted, unable to vote, hardcore, inflate.
Varee: Claimed former one-shot changeling.  Current assumed role: virtuous, resurrection, hardcore
Wolf: Current known role: Unable to vote.  Current assumed role: unable to vote, graverob, flexible, self-targeted cleanse
Toony: ?
Silthuri: ?
Scripten: Claims to have been changelinged.  Current assumed role: dense, lover (Toaster), one-shot
TolyK: Claimed Chrome.  Proven unable to vote.  Claimed blatant.  Current known role: unable to vote.  Claims to have targeted himself with an ability, unable to confirm until day end.  Current assumed role: blatant, unable to vote, self-targeting power
Jiokuy: ?
Flabort: Claimed innate free changeling.  Current assumed role: free innate changeling, kill, cleanse, flexible, intermittent, hardcore.

This day has shot my reads on people to hell, but I think that the killing plan can work.  There are a few problems that need to be worked out, but I think I have a way to prove whether or not he is scum:

Tomorrow, Flabort chooses a few people (let's say three, for the sake of the example) who he suspects the least.  Everyone other than himself and those people claim their masks, and he chooses, without announcing it, the two people he thinks are most suspicious and offs them.  Then, after that is confirmed, those who didn't claim their masks initially claim their masks.

This allows us to mitigate some of the scum strategies to counter what we would try: they don't know who Flabort is, so any roleblocks would be a chance shot, and they don't know who he is going to take out, so it will be harder to mask swap correctly.  Yes, I know there are ways around it, but I think having a confirmed townie with a vigkill would be a pretty nice thing to have.

That's really all I have to say on the matter, people can debate the merits as they see fit.