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[Varee]

so it pretty much upgraded bolo round right?

[SaberToothTiger]

A bit different, but might act as one.

[Varee]

maybe we can mod the AK to fire that bullet too.

Spoiler: AK LR (click to show/hide)

Length 1200mm
Barrel length 689 mm
Cartridge   12.7×99mm
Rate of fire    60 rpm
Muzzle velocity    1200 m/s
Effective firing range    600 metres

So same stock and extended cartridge for larger payload, the standard sniper round size

[SaberToothTiger]

Yup, that's basically usable. Thanks.

[adwarf]

Will post a suggestion later, but I must point out that the BMP - 1 is an IFV, and the for the T-62 you have the armor completely wrong. No tank has 242mm armor all around, that is the thickness of the turret's front armor and the actual armor thickness should be something around 70mm.

[TamerVirus]

PTW!

[SaberToothTiger]

When will we have a turn?

[Funk]

When will we have a turn?

Probably in a hour or so.

Will post a suggestion later, but I must point out that the BMP - 1 is an IFV, and the for the T-62 you have the armor completely wrong. No tank has 242mm armor all around, that is the thickness of the turret's front armor and the actual armor thickness should be something around 70mm.

Your right on the tanks armour and in BMP is part of the tank core due to politics (it has tracks and a 70mm gun), there still used as infantry fighting vehicles.

Starting a turn now,so i'll update in a hour or so.
Im aiming for turns ever day or two days if i need you to vote,just to keep things moveing.

[adwarf]

Will post a suggestion later, but I must point out that the BMP - 1 is an IFV, and the for the T-62 you have the armor completely wrong. No tank has 242mm armor all around, that is the thickness of the turret's front armor and the actual armor thickness should be something around 70mm.

Your right on the tanks armour and in BMP is part of the tank core due to politics (it has tracks and a 70mm gun), there still used as infantry fighting vehicles.

Most Cold War to modern IFVs have tracks, and high caliber main guns because that's what is the most effective for use, IFVs go across all kinds of terrain so tracks are kinda necessary and without the 70mm on the BMP it'd be a glorified truck. Tanks are specifically designed for front-line combat while IFVs are for an infantry transportation, and sometimes scout roles.

[Funk]

weapons

After you late night move to your new base, you start work on some kind of net bullet.

Experiments on using bolos show that accuracy drops off quickly, in side 100 meters or less rounds spin wildly off target.

Adding extra bolos only make it drop faster, damage wise each segment needs to have a minim weight of 3 grams or so
it will risks having a segment not penetrate.

Useing the 12.7×108mm round from your tanks as a base you mange to get a nice net of six bolos that quickly spreads out to diameter of 30cms.
With a large up scaled kalashnikov action rifle you have a base to work from and soon it is ready for issue.

Spoiler: Heavy Sniper rifle model 1 (click to show/hide)

Length 120 CM
Weight 12kg
Barrel length 689 mm
Cartridge   12.7×99mm FMJ, AP, BOLO, NET
Rate of fire    60 rpm
Muzzle velocity    800 m/s
Effective firing range    1700 metres

After finishing the finale design of the remote mines

Spoiler: Radio controlled land mine model 1 (click to show/hide)

    Weight: 230 g
    Explosive content: 60 g of RDX
    Diameter: 100 mm
    Height: 45 mm
    Operating pressure: 10 kg
    Lethal radius: 27 m
    Battery life: 2 months
    Notes: remote radio control system
    High risk of detaining electrostatic discharge.

The war quickly escalates as the Kedardoviastan bomber force harasses your army, striking with guided missiles and quickly withdrawing across the border before your MIGs can intercept them.

Clearly something need to be done but what?

Spoiler: Forces brake down (click to show/hide)

60,000 common solders:
Standard issue equipment:AK-47, bolo bullets in limited issue
Additional weapons: RPK machine guns, Dragunov sniper rifles and
RPG-18 anti-tank rockets are a available.
Armor: Flack vests

Small arms
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Spoiler: Valyize M78 semi-automatic (click to show/hide)

Action: short recoil
Cartridge: .42Valyize (10.6x 35mm)
Total length: 290mm
Barrel length: 102mm
Weight: 1.3kg
Magazine: 7 rounds of .42 inch
Note: A robust and powerful pistol.
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.42Valyize
Bullet weight: 235g
Velocity: 231 m/s
Energy 346 j
Note: a solid conical lead bullet for a revolver.

Spoiler: AK-47 (click to show/hide)

Weight  3.47 kg
Length 880 mm (35 in)
Barrel length 369 mm (14.5 in)
Cartridge    7.62×39mm, FMJ, BOLO
Rate of fire    600
Muzzle velocity    715 m/s (2,350 ft/s)
Effective firing range    400 metres (440 yd)
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7.62×39mm
Bullet weight/type  7.9 g (122 gr) Full metal jacket
Velocity    730.3 m/s (2,396 ft/s)
Energy    2,108 J (1,555 ft·lbf)

Tank Core
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Spoiler: T-62 X 200 (click to show/hide)

Weight    40 t
Length    6.63 m (21 ft 9 in) hull only
Width    3.30 m (10 ft 10 in)
Height    2.40 m (7 ft 10 in)
Crew    4 (commander, driver, gunner, loader)

Armor 242mm
Main
armament   115 mm smoothbore gun
Secondary
armament

Engine     581 hp diesel engine
Operational
range    450 km (280 mi)
Speed    50 km/h (31 mph)

Spoiler: BMP-1 X 573 (click to show/hide)

Weight    13.2 tonnes
Length    6.735 m (22 ft 1.2 in)
Width    2.94 m (9 ft 8 in)
Height    2.068 m (6 ft 9.4 in)
Crew            3 (commander, driver and gunner) + 8 passengers
Armor    33 mm
Main
armament    73 mm smoothbore semi-automatic
Operational
range    600 km (370 mi)
Speed    65 km/h (40 mph)

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Artillery
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Spoiler:  2B9 Vasilek automatic 82 mm gun-mortar X 117 (click to show/hide)

Weight     632 kg (1,393 lb)
Shell             3.23 kg (7 lb 2 oz) bomb
Caliber     82 mm (3.2 in)
Breech     muzzle or breech loaded
Magazine    4 round clips
Rate of fire     20-30 rpm effective
Muzzle velocity    270 m/s (890 ft/s)
Effective range    4,720 m (5,160 yd)

Spoiler: 122 mm howitzer X 45 (click to show/hide)

Weight    Combat: 3,210 kg (7,080 lb)
Length    Transport: 5.4 m (17 ft 9 in)
Barrel length    Bore: 38 calibres
Width    Transport: 1.9 m (6 ft 3 in)
Height    Transport: 1.6 m (5 ft 3 in)
Crew    1+7
Caliber    122 mm (4.8 in)
Rate of fire    Maximum: 10-12 rpm (sust 6 rpm)
Effective firing range    21.9 km (13.6 mi)

Air Force
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Half the air force was removed back in the early 90's and two thirds of remainder have been grounded over the years, due to a lack of parts and war damage.


Mil Mi-24 " Hind" helicopter gunship demilitarized transport X 25

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Crew: 2–3: pilot
Capacity: 8 troops or 4 stretchers or 2400 kg (5,291 lb) cargo on an external sling
Length: 17.5 m (57 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 6.5 m (21 ft 3 in)
Height: 6.5 m (21 ft 3 in)
Empty weight: 8,500 kg (18,740 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 12,000 kg (26,500 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Isotov TV3-117 turbines, 1,600 kW (2,200 hp) each
Maximum speed: 335 km/h (208 mph)

Spoiler: MiG-23 X 20 (click to show/hide)

Crew: One
Length: 16.70 m (56 ft 9.5)
Wingspan: Spread, 13.97 m (45 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.82 m (15 ft 9.75 in)

Empty weight: 9,595 kg (21,153 lb)
Loaded weight: 15,700 kg (34,612 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 18,030 kg (39,749 lb)
Powerplant: 1 turbojet, 83.6 kN dry, 127 kN afterburning (18,850 lbf / 28,700 lbf)
Maximum speed: Mach 2.32, 1,553 mph

Weapons
1x 23 mm cannon autocannon
6 mounts giveing 500kg x 6 (3000kg) of storage

Spy reports
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Spoiler: Kedardovia (click to show/hide)

Reports of a new fighter jet, no details

Spoiler: Callatalenear (click to show/hide)

Spy's report nothing new

Spoiler: Kedardoviastan (click to show/hide)

Recently purchased a large number of m16s

Technology's mastered
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Laser weapons 1 / ?
Remote control 1 / ?

 
   

[Varee]

Let mount or space tank core with some Flak cannon

Spoiler: BMP1 AA (click to show/hide)

Weight    13.2 tonnes
Length    6.735 m (22 ft 1.2 in)
Width    2.94 m (9 ft 8 in)
Height    2.068 m (6 ft 9.4 in)
Crew            3 (commander, driver and gunner) + 8 passengers
Armor    33 mm
Main armament Twin BMF 40 mm AA gun/ 500 rounds

Spoiler: BMF 40 mm (click to show/hide)

Caliber 40 mm
RoF ~120 Round per minute
muzzle velocity ~1000 m/s
Effective range ~9000m
Load 40mm Flak ammo


Ammo 40x 145mm Flak
weight ~300 gram
Propellant length 120 mm
Shell Size 40 x 25 mm
Effective radius 25 meter

[TamerVirus]

Design acid rounds for our pistol: by introducing mini glass vials filled with our most reactive acid and surrounded by metal casing, on impact would spray the acid inside the wound of those shot, almost akin to hollow point rounds

[Funk]

Work on a 40mm gun progresses rapidly, inside a few days you have a working weapon.

Spoiler: BMF 40 mm gun (click to show/hide)

Caliber 40 mm short
Weight ~ see text
Length ~ 1748mm
Barrel length    1,060 mm
RoF ~ see text
Muzzle velocity ~ 988  m/s
Max Range ~ 8260 m

Spoiler: BMF 40 mm round (click to show/hide)

Size 40x 145mm Flak
Weight ~ 300g
Propellant length 120 mm
Shell Size 40 x 25 mm
Effective radius 25 meter

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Your are undecided on how best to cycle the gun but after some work it is narrowed down to choice of 3.

1 Chain gun, using electric motors you can get a light gun that is capable of 250rpm and a total weight of 80 kg.
2 Linked gast action, by linking two guns together so that fireing one gun operates the mechanism of the other, you reckon it should it 3000rpm, total weight of 140 kg.
3 Gatling-type, using a large hydraulic motor to drive six barrels, it should manage a truly astounding 5900rpm, total weight of 350 KG.

Work on converting the BMP 1 for use as a gun transports goes quicky

Spoiler: BMP1 AA (click to show/hide)

Weight    14? tonnes
Hull Length    6.735 m (22 ft 1.2 in)
Hull Width    2.94 m (9 ft 8 in)
Hull Height    2.068 m (6 ft 9.4 in)
Crew            3 (commander, driver and gunner) + 8 passengers?
Armor    33 mm
Main armament BMF 40 mm gun? times X?

Your still debating how many seats to replace for extra ammo storage.

Design acid rounds for our pistol: by introducing mini glass vials filled with our most reactive acid and surrounded by metal casing, on impact would spray the acid inside the wound of those shot, almost akin to hollow point rounds

Work on a special "Hot" round, is slowed down by the complex production as each round as to be made by hand under strict safety measures to prevent accidents.

But after a long week you have the first of your bullets filled with Sulfuric acid, your unsure why the voices told you to make them but made them you have.

Acid filled bullet

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Size 10.6× 30mm (.42 Valyize
Bullet weight: 175g
Velocity: 238 m/s
Note: this bullet contains a small teflon coated glass vials filled with power full acid

The war grinds to a stand still as the Kedardoviastan advance is stop by a rapid thrust from your armored core that reclaims a pair of important railway bridges across the river kardocks from them.

 

[NAV]

Halberd bayonets

[Alev]

Make a few power plants so we can power and build railgun cannons.

And gatling type, for the other gun.