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[jecowa]

https://bitbucket.org/Pidgeot/python-lnp/pull-requests/49/graphics-preview/diff

So it reads the graphics sets from the graphics folder and dynamically renders scenes with them on-the-fly? That sounds like a pretty awesome way to do it. I'm guessing you could have it show any scene you wanted and not just the arena, maybe the user would get a few options on what scene to render?

[PeridexisErrant]

Eventually I hope so, but it's been stalled for a while.

[jecowa]

Yes they can share a title (though it could confuse users!), and the title need not have anything to do with the folder name.  Any correlations are conventions for ease of use.

(moving this thread over here from CLA's)

From what I can tell, the part of the manifest.json title before the first space has to be exactly the same as the folder name of the graphics pack. If it's not, then it won't update the graphics in the save files.

For example, if the manifest title is "Rally Ho! 16x" then its graphics folder needs to be titled "Rally".

Update: v0.11 and v0.10f are more particular about the names than v0.10e. Version 0.10e doesn't seem to care as much about what folders named.

Update2: This commit is where it changed: c82ef15

[Pidgeot]

https://bitbucket.org/Pidgeot/python-lnp/pull-requests/49/graphics-preview/diff

So it reads the graphics sets from the graphics folder and dynamically renders scenes with them on-the-fly? That sounds like a pretty awesome way to do it. I'm guessing you could have it show any scene you wanted and not just the arena, maybe the user would get a few options on what scene to render?

In the interest of keeping the code manageable, the data export simple, and the implementation reasonably snappy, the current WIP has some restrictions (namely, only the basic tileset can be used; no TWBT overrides or creature graphics). This, in turn, puts some restrictions on the scene if you want to make the rendering match; the arena is a good sample map for these restrictions since you know there won't be anything unexpected and it shows off a decent array of tiles.

[Dirst]

Hi Pidgeot, would it be possible to export the state of the LNP's options to a copy-pastable string that work work across platforms?  It'd likely end up as a long hard-to-read thing like the ?parameters of an ugly URL, but pasting in a specific string would give players an easy way to get to a known state... and pave the way to saving LNP profiles.

[Pidgeot]

At the moment it's already planned to have multiple options in Defaults, which would sort of allow for the whole profile stuff.

A copy pastable string should be possible as part of that, I guess... will keep it in mind for then.

[jecowa]

I've been compiling a spreadsheet to help keep track of what tilesets have granted permission to be included in Lazy Newb Packs and thought this info might be useful for anyone wanting to make a Lazy Newb Pack. Sorry if this isn't the right forum post for this, but it seems close.

Tileset	author	permission	Permission message / Refusal message / Notes
Afro	Afro	probably	He was never really active, but I imagine he would be okay with it.
AutoReiv	AutoReiv	pending	Hasn't responded yet, but as a founding member of DFGraphics, I imagine it would be okay.
burnedfx	burned	denied	No. I am not interested. Good luck with your LNP and everything. =]
CLA	CLA	granted	Yes, just keep it the same name when a user chooses, and - if it's practical - include a link to this thread somewhere.
Curses	Bay 12 Games	granted	Spoiler: Permission message from Bay 12 Games (click to show/hide) Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: *** Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. *** Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. *** The names of Tarn Adams, Zach Adams, Svein Ove Aas, Bernard Helyer and Bay 12 Games may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
Duerer	HaterSkater	pending
Dungeon Set	utkonos	granted	yup, sure.
FnordSet	PopTart	granted	Yeah, … Permission granted!
GemSet	DragonDePlatino	pending	Hasn't responded yet, but as a founding member of DFGraphics, I imagine it would be okay.
Geoduck	geoduck	granted	Sure.
Grim Fortress	lightrow	probably fine	Spoiler: "Notes" (click to show/hide) I haven't asked him because he's super inactive, and I'm unsure about the rules on "necro-ing" a thread. I think he would be fine with it, though. In one post he seemed happy to give a user permission to use one of his tiles, at least.
Ironhand	Ironhand	probably okay	Sure. Just give me credit.
Ironhand	GoldenShadow	granted	I have no problem with that.
Jolly Bastion	AlexanderOcias	granted	Go right ahead! Let me know if you use it though, I'd love to see what you make!
Krenshala	krenshala	granted	jecowa, i'll message you as well to make sure you see it, but I do not mind at all if you use my tileset.
Mayday	Mike Mayday	granted	Tallcastle (and everyone) - feel free to apply and release any modifications at this point.
Mayday	Tallcastle	granted	Spoiler: "Permission message from Tallcastle" (click to show/hide) Absolutely!  (At least on my end) And for future reference, anyone out there that wants to use anything I make, you are all most welcome to use my material.  This goes for all graphics sets, mods, or whatever.
NSMR	Max™	granted	If people want to use it, sure
Obsidian	Obsidian Soul	granted	Spoiler: "Permission message from Obsidian Soul" (click to show/hide) You can use this tileset any way and anywhere you like. Credits to me and the others listed below would be appreciated however.
Phoebus	Phoebus	granted	Spoiler: "Permission message from Phoebus" (click to show/hide) On that subject, yes you are free to add things to the graphic pack, or make your own version of the graphic pack. Most of the art in the pack has been, borrowed, from the community, and I've created to pack for the benefit of the community. Feel free to use or improve it as you wish.
Rally Ho!	Rydel	pending	Hasn't responded yet, but his participation in the DFGraphic repo is a good sign that he's okay with it.
Simple Mood	Rogue Yun	granted	Spoiler: "Permission message from Rogue Yun" (click to show/hide) Legal Stuff: I'm placing this work in the public domain. (At least am attempting to). You are free to use and distribute this work any way you see fit. I'd still like to hear and see what you do with it, but you are welcome to do as you please.
Slyce	carnivorn	granted	ngl I'd be thrilled!
Spacefox	Spacefox	granted	Spoiler: Permission message from Spacefox (click to show/hide) December 02 2013 Hey Spacefox here. Some people have contacted me about using the Dwarf sprites in their game, tileset or website. You have my permission to use these Sprites provided: - You don't monetize my sprites. Eg, paid game (i made these for the dwarf fortress community to enjoy. They are free to share and use) - I'm NOT the creator of Pheobus' Tileset or any of it's assets. If you want to use those assets, you will need to ask permission from the respective creators! - Please make sure to credit me and of course Sphyr, the creator of the original dwarves on which my sprites are based upon. Thankyou.
Spacefox	Nopal	granted	Of course mate!
Taffer	Taffer	granted	Spoiler: Permission from Taffer (click to show/hide) By all means, go ahead! Please do. I was planning on submitting a patch once I got things sorted out more, but it would be appreciated if you went ahead and added them. I don't know what variants you want to include, but it's probably reasonable to exclude the "dwarf letters" variants, as much as I like them.
Tergel	CowThing	pending
Wanderlust	Kynsmer	granted	Sure! You have permission to use my set in any way. Credit is appreciated.

Utilities will come next.

[jecowa]

Permissions to include Utilities in Lazy Newb Packs:

Utility	author	permission status
Armok Vision	Japa	permission granted
DFHack	DFHack team	permission granted
Dwarf Therapist	Dwarf Therapist team	permission granted
SoundSense	zwei	pending
Text Will Be Text	mifki	permission granted

[DAOWAce]

I've been compiling a spreadsheet to help keep track of what tilesets have granted permission to be included in Lazy Newb Packs ...

How about http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152766.0 ?

I actually prefer that set the most.

[Raziel_Blaze]

Wow, DAOWAce, Dungeon Set is awesome looking. I would love to see this included!

[jecowa]

Does this app change the system path settings for Python? Someone was saying I messed up his Python system paths, which is preventing him from using a livestreaming app.

It looks like this might be the important bit from his traceback:

Code: [Select]

ImportError: dlopen(/Applications/Lazy Mac Pack v0.43.03-a-dfhack/Lazy Mac Pack.app/Contents/MacOS/operator.so, 2): Symbol not found: _Py_Py3kWarningFlag
  Referenced from: /Applications/Lazy Mac Pack v0.43.03-a-dfhack/Lazy Mac Pack.app/Contents/MacOS/operator.so
  Expected in: flat namespace
 in /Applications/Lazy Mac Pack v0.43.03-a-dfhack/Lazy Mac Pack.app/Contents/MacOS/operator.so
Note that "Lazy Mac Pack.app" = PyLNP v0.11.

Spoiler: "full error message" (click to show/hide)

livestreamer my-web-url-deleted
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/requests/packages/__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
    from . import urllib3
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/requests/packages/urllib3/__init__.py", line 8, in <module>
    from .connectionpool import (
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/requests/packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 3, in <module>
    import logging
  File "/usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.5.1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/lib/python3.5/logging/__init__.py", line 26, in <module>
    import sys, os, time, io, traceback, warnings, weakref, collections
  File "/usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.5.1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/lib/python3.5/traceback.py", line 3, in <module>
    import collections
  File "/usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.5.1/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/lib/python3.5/collections/__init__.py", line 10, in <module>
    from operator import itemgetter as _itemgetter, eq as _eq
ImportError: dlopen(/Applications/Lazy Mac Pack v0.43.03-a-dfhack/Lazy Mac Pack.app/Contents/MacOS/operator.so, 2): Symbol not found: _Py_Py3kWarningFlag
  Referenced from: /Applications/Lazy Mac Pack v0.43.03-a-dfhack/Lazy Mac Pack.app/Contents/MacOS/operator.so
  Expected in: flat namespace
 in /Applications/Lazy Mac Pack v0.43.03-a-dfhack/Lazy Mac Pack.app/Contents/MacOS/operator.so

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/livestreamer", line 7, in <module>
    from livestreamer_cli.main import main
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/livestreamer_cli/main.py", line 3, in <module>
    import requests
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/requests/__init__.py", line 61, in <module>
    from .packages.urllib3.exceptions import DependencyWarning
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/requests/packages/__init__.py", line 29, in <module>
    import urllib3
ImportError: No module named 'urllib3'

I can't really understand much of it. I'm using Pidgeot's build of it. Even if it turns out that it's at fault, thanks for providing those, by the way. I haven't been able to get it to compile yet. Sorry if I messed something up. If you feel like looking into it sometime, I'd appreciate it.

[Pidgeot]

PyLNP itself does not touch it, but PyInstaller - the program used to package PyLNP into an .app - does use that to ensure the right things get run. I guess it might have leaked from there somehow.

This seems to have been fixed in PyInstaller 3.0, so I'll try giving an upgrade to PyInstaller another shot. I've been holding off on doing that for a while now, since the 3.x builds haven't seemed to work right on Windows, but if that's still an issue, it might be possible to just do Mac... will try.

[Morgoth]

VirusTotal found 5 trojans in a DF mod I'm using, but it turns out it's not from the mod itself. Downloading the LNP standalone results in the same trojans being found. Is this a false positive?

[PatrikLundell]

@Morgoth:
I think you may actually be asking about this http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.0, as PyLNP is one of the tools used by the LNP. The LNP is prone to resulting in false positives from various tools included in the package since a number of tools mess around with another program's (DF) memory, which is a thing malware do as well. Thus, it's probably a false positive, but you have to decide for yourself if you're prepared to take the risk that the positive is real.

[yunejae]

os : windows 8.1

vanilla DF works well, but clicking pyLNP gives no response

even no error message, it just ignore clicking.  not launching, very sad.