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Max™

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4395 on: June 10, 2016, 08:33:01 am »

...you fixed 0003838?

We can encounter/be sieged by/loot world-gen enemies in full armor?

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« Reply #4396 on: June 10, 2016, 09:21:25 am »

^ That was #1 on the wishlist. Too awesome  :)
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« Reply #4397 on: June 11, 2016, 10:55:49 pm »

^ That was #1 on the wishlist. Too awesome  :)
Tarn's explanation of what went into fixing that and what has to be fixed to make sure nothing else goes wrong as a result of fixing it was highly entertaining. Item wear, broken necks, ripping helmets off unconscious opponents. Awesome stuff to look forward to.
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« Reply #4398 on: June 11, 2016, 11:03:31 pm »

Got my question just a little late on the Twitch Stream during DwarfMoot.

Ocean Titans don't seem to get generated anymore. Can we expect to see them terrorizing the seas when boats are introduced? We currently have Sea Monsters but they're limited to evil regions and don't have that randomly generated charm.
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« Reply #4399 on: June 12, 2016, 04:21:03 am »

Will there be a sort of recap anywhere of what has been said during the DwarfMoot ? I hope !
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« Reply #4400 on: June 12, 2016, 06:05:09 am »

Recording of the live stream will be put up some time soon according to Capntastic.
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« Reply #4401 on: June 13, 2016, 03:06:19 pm »

Do you plan to add more noble positions in Fortress mode--especially ones with special requirements (like offices)--or to strengthen the requirements for the noble positions that exist (like bookkeepers consuming writing material)?  If so, is that a near-term milestone or a long-term one?

I really like the way noble requirements shake up your fortress design and force you to think more carefully about your layouts, and I especially (no sarcasm!) like the way managers and bookkeepers actually require offices to do the work that lets you access basic interface functionality.  But, as it stands, unless you sprout a lot of barons, there are only very few positions like that.  Chief Medical Dwarfs don't even need an office to work.  I'd really like if there was more of an administrative class in fortress society, especially if it was tied into core simulation mechanics (eg., make it harder to keep dwarves happy, and then add a Therapist noble position that helps sad dwarves).
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4402 on: June 13, 2016, 04:38:51 pm »

This might not be for this release, but is indeed a question for the future of the fortress. How much independence or free will for the dwarves or any being that composes the population of your fortress you intent in the end? I mean, eventually we'll end up with "civilian zones/areas" where the dwellers can do whatever they want?

To further what I mean, I'm imaging zones where they can make up their own rooms/houses, workshops, markets, churches, taverns and so on at their own wits within the same site of your fortress.
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« Reply #4403 on: June 13, 2016, 07:29:20 pm »


I have a question about the myth thing.
At GDC it was said that you can set the myth level, that limit the stuff that can happen on the world, humans as some example have an ultra low mythic level and so they can happen even with a ultra low myth level.
My question is, does setting your world mythic level to a high value, force the world generation to generate high mythic level creatures/stuff, or the world will generate itself logically as it always do and if it the generator "feels" a higher mythic level thing is needed it will put this thing without rejecting the world?
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« Reply #4404 on: June 13, 2016, 07:46:08 pm »

I have a question about the myth thing.
At GDC it was said that you can set the myth level, that limit the stuff that can happen on the world, humans as some example have an ultra low mythic level and so they can happen even with a ultra low myth level.

My question is, does setting your world mythic level to a high value, force the world generation to generate high mythic level creatures/stuff, or the world will generate itself logically as it always do and if it the generator "feels" a higher mythic level thing is needed it will put this thing without rejecting the world?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4405 on: June 13, 2016, 11:28:03 pm »

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...and some combat AI to make people remove helmets from unconscious opponents. Then the release should be ready.
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No longer will one of the first things I do with new versions be modding helmet coverage from 100% to 80%.  Because people should be smart enough to take the bloody thing off now!
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« Reply #4406 on: June 13, 2016, 11:32:39 pm »

So wait...my tactic of distracting the GCS by having it gnaw uselessly on the Captain of the Guard's steel helmeted head until the rest of the squad turn up might not work any more?

- The giant cave spider carefully removes the swordsdwarf's helmet...
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« Reply #4407 on: June 14, 2016, 12:17:28 am »

Well, that's to be expected in dwarf fortress. I imagine later bug fix notes will mention "stopped unintelligent creatures from figuring out how to undress and disarm opponents"
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« Reply #4408 on: June 14, 2016, 03:56:29 am »

Wooo! Just read the devlog about the armoured invader changes upcoming. Having just lost a fortress because my copper-clad military insisted on repeatedly beating the iron helmet of a gobbo while the civilians were slaughtered, this sounds like a good change!
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #4409 on: June 14, 2016, 09:27:56 am »

Well, that's to be expected in dwarf fortress. I imagine later bug fix notes will mention "stopped unintelligent creatures from figuring out how to undress and disarm opponents"

I can see this being bloody inevitable, but on the other hand I suspect it will cause bugs of even stranger nature. o3o
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