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[Shonai_Dweller]

Will npc adventurers get any site building skills during this cycle? Would be nice to run into a monster hunter's mountain lodge full of Forgotten Beast bone figurines.

[Untrustedlife]

Will npc adventurers get any site building skills during this cycle? Would be nice to run into a monster hunter's mountain lodge full of Forgotten Beast bone figurines.

They can already make "camps" which they sleep in during the night.

[Untrustedlife]

So how deep will the magic systems be, will it be as simple (and might I add, boring)  as a "create bucket of water" button.

Or will it be as complicated as a custom spell creator based on the worlds rules like "custom spell" -> "I want to create fire" -> "fire ball" ->"shoot it"-> " and I want it to be blue" alright game:  " cost : an entire arm" y or n . "Save template"
 
Or will it be somewhere in the middle?

Cado's magical journey is a good example of a complex magic system based on rules that seems fun.

[ZM5]

So how deep will the magic systems be, will it be as simple (and might I add, boring)  as a "create bucket of water" button.

Or will it be as complicated as a custom spell creator based on the worlds rules like "custom spell" -> "I want to create fire" -> "fire ball" ->"shoot it"-> " and I want it to be blue" alright game:  " cost : an entire arm" y or n . "Save template"
 
Or will it be somewhere in the middle?

Cado's magical journey is a good example of a complex magic system based on rules that seems fun.

Gonna add onto this, though it probably has been asked before - will we see artifacts that allow for magical abilities?

For that matter, will there be "doomsday" artifacts that are sought out by cult-like entities and can cause one of any number of potential end of the world scenarios, wheter it be as simple as "zombie apocalypse", a meteor dropping and killing most of the living populations, or something more complex such as a Ragnarok-type of apocalypse?

[PTTG??]

If such artifacts exist, then the PC better be able to use them.

[ZM5]

If such artifacts exist, then the PC better be able to use them.

Would be pointless if we couldn't. With the new site building I'd definitely make my own cult dedicated to seeking out such artifacts (should there be multiple ones within a world) and unleashing them all at once.

[vjmdhzgr]

So how deep will the magic systems be, will it be as simple (and might I add, boring)  as a "create bucket of water" button.

Or will it be as complicated as a custom spell creator based on the worlds rules like "custom spell" -> "I want to create fire" -> "fire ball" ->"shoot it"-> " and I want it to be blue" alright game:  " cost : an entire arm" y or n . "Save template"
 
Or will it be somewhere in the middle?

Cado's magical journey is a good example of a complex magic system based on rules that seems fun.

Cado's Magical Journey is what they want the magic system to be like.

[Dirst]

If such artifacts exist, then the PC better be able to use them.

Would be pointless if we couldn't. With the new site building I'd definitely make my own cult dedicated to seeking out such artifacts (should there be multiple ones within a world) and unleashing them all at once.

Have you ever seen the Potion Miscibility Table from AD&D or the Magical Item Interaction Table from Rolemaster?

[Random_Dragon]

Could be worse. Let's hope we don't see Warhammer/WH40k perils of the warp, or the spell results from FATAL. :V

[Eric Blank]

Or like ARMOK I, where there was a spell to literally rip a targeted bodypart's skin off.

You could target yourself, too. Rip your own head's skin off.


Actually, that was cool enough. I'd be up for that.

[Shonai_Dweller]

If such artifacts exist, then the PC better be able to use them.

Would be pointless if we couldn't. With the new site building I'd definitely make my own cult dedicated to seeking out such artifacts (should there be multiple ones within a world) and unleashing them all at once.

And hopefully, if the development notes are up to date, you won't be the only one in the world with that idea. An organic process that actually leads naturally to memorable villains who become the player's nemeses will be pretty cool.

[GoblinCookie]

Each civ has a site cap, don't they?

No, the whole world has a site cap; there is no per civ site cap.   

[ZM5]

Have you ever seen the Potion Miscibility Table from AD&D or the Magical Item Interaction Table from Rolemaster?

I haven't actually :E

And hopefully, if the development notes are up to date, you won't be the only one in the world with that idea. An organic process that actually leads naturally to memorable villains who become the player's nemeses will be pretty cool.

Yeah, that's what I meant by cults seeking such artifacts out. That'd be amazing to actually have randomly-generated villains in the world.

[Max™]

Each civ has a site cap, don't they?

No, the whole world has a site cap; there is no per civ site cap.   

...actually.

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[MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:25]
[MAX_POP_NUMBER:15000]
[MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:100]The relationship between max pop and max site pop sets a cap per civ as I recall.

So how deep will the magic systems be, will it be as simple (and might I add, boring)  as a "create bucket of water" button.

Or will it be as complicated as a custom spell creator based on the worlds rules like "custom spell" -> "I want to create fire" -> "fire ball" ->"shoot it"-> " and I want it to be blue" alright game:  " cost : an entire arm" y or n . "Save template"
 
Or will it be somewhere in the middle?

Cado's magical journey is a good example of a complex magic system based on rules that seems fun.

Cado's Magical Journey is what they want the magic system to be like.

Yup, as I said a page or two back, you can do many of the effects from the story now via modding/dfhack/both. Some aren't really possible to simulate currently (like, I can make anyone hurtle across the screen into a wall and explode if I want, but making an item fly controllably into my hand? not yet, though perhaps with the combat style expansion we'll get projectile catching options) and some are easier than others (the slowing time/megapunching, as well as cumulative side effects via syndrome concentration are both pretty straightforward modding exercises now) but it's easy enough to picture things like the dancing "move to x" interface, perhaps one using a cursor to trace shapes in real time, the "continue or move to interrupt" pacing, and so forth.

I imagine the projectile/action-at-a-distance aspects will probably accompany a rework of the ranged combat system, hopefully at least, I mean rightfully when you're zooming around at 10.0 speed you should see crossbow bolts hanging in the air and just walk past them or interact/grab them... not to mention being able to aim attacks at foes flying through the air like npcs can.

[KillzEmAllGod]

Will magic enable Elves to create metal weapons and armor or will they be able tp get their own magical enchanted metal that they can craft into what they need?

Will philosophers and poets be able to create their own myths or adept other cultures to their own?