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[DG]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

[Kogan Loloklam]

Will forgotten beasts be able to infect syndromes like they can that are already linked? Paticularly Alcohol?
I'm not talking about alcohol breath. I'm talking about contact poisoning or other contamination issue that increases the alcohol consumption flag. Or other already present syndromes.

[WordsandChaos]

Not talking about alcoholic breath? Why not!?


Is it now possible for drunk-inducing breath to exist?

[Dirst]

Not talking about alcoholic breath? Why not!?

Is it now possible for drunk-inducing breath to exist?

The SYN_CLASS or equivalent tag should be in the raws, so it should be pretty easy.  And even if it's not in the raws, the folks who spend their free time inspecting DF string dumps will find it anyway.

[Cruxador]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

That also relies on a syndrome vector being able to change concentration by a negative amount.

[NW_Kohaku]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

Such a thing would require the capacity to actually order dwarves to gather specific things ("What part of the pea plant do I gather again? Oh well, I'll just uproot the whole thing!" "Hey, there's a whole pea plant here! I don't know which part is the pea, so I'll just not eat any of it...") as well as order dwarves to not only drink specific things, but things that are not normal drinking items, and/or mix drinks.

Not saying it would be a bad thing, mind you, I'm sure people would love the ability to point to specific things they want done, but that's a huge step up in Interface specificity. Right now, it's hard to even keep dwarves from deciding the hospital operating room isn't an appropriate place to have lunch, even when it's being actively used by a dwarf bleeding out from a syndrome. 

[Dirst]

Right now, it's hard to even keep dwarves from deciding the hospital operating room isn't an appropriate place to have lunch, even when it's being actively used by a dwarf bleeding out from a syndrome.

"Try the red sauce.  It's got an interesting flav-- oh my eyes are melting!"

[NJW2000]

Is there any likelihood of a more detailed relationship system e.g. social calls, grudges turning into friendships, feelings of indebtedness, proposals (turned down), unrequited love, non-mutual hatred, hatred generally, gifts, stuff that happens to us normally, any or all of these?

Yes but not in this release.
 

Selfish and irrelevant question:

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 And also a bit pointless, but will there ever be a way to stop a thread from telling you about it when people "reply" to your posts ?

I didn't even know there was a way to start it doing that.

Cheers, crux + others, can't wait to watch my militia commander turn down the lovestruck peasant that ran out in the middle of the seige to propose !

[RoaryStar]

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How do you handle events? Do you, say, loop through every/certain intervals of items/units/etc, or do you use another method?

Define "events".

If it's something like when a party is started, there is a counter for those things on each dwarf, which is incremented every single frame.

In general, Toady seems to avoid scheduler-style updates for reasons I don't understand, and prefers update-every-freaking-item-in-the-game-every-single-frame methods, which help lead to FPS decay.

There are scheduler-type updates for a lot of things. If you look at a filling or emptying bunch of water, you can see the pattern of updates going over it. Items are checked for for pathability or w/e every 1,2,4,8, etc. up to IIRC 1024 ticks (said IIRC in an interview).

There are scheduler-type updates for a lot of things. If you look at a filling or emptying bunch of water, you can see the pattern of updates going over it. Items are checked for for pathability or w/e every 1,2,4,8, etc. up to IIRC 1024 ticks (said IIRC in an interview).

He's done it for water, certainly, because it's such a massive hit to FPS if he doesn't that he pretty much had to. 

[It largely amounts to something like "once every 16 ticks", and only tests every fourth tile if memory serves, so it's actually very slow. (Without pressure, dwarves can out-walk a wall of water.) "Still" waters have even less frequent checks, to the point of taking several hundred frames for a tile of water adjacent to a just-mined wall to recognize it now has somewhere new to flow.  (Seriously, try mining out a stagnant pool from the side in a test embark, and see how far away your dwarf gets back to the fort before the water starts breaking up from 7s, I've seen as many as 40 steps.)]

It doesn't happen for almost anything creature-related, and probably should, as there's little reason to update thirst, hunger, readiness to party and the like between actual turns within which the creature can actually make decisions based upon those properties.

Water, for that matter, could be handled differently.  Minecraft, for example, largely only checks when neighboring tiles are changed, rather than periodic polling.  (Although Minecraft's system obviously has bugs and serious exploits associated with it, especially since they don't handle flows well or units of water less than a block.) I'd also made a suggestion a while back on treating water as a whole body, rather than a series of tiles that individually flow, which should also preserve FPS, especially with large bodies like oceans.

Okay, thanks for the information.

[Eric Blank]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

That also relies on a syndrome vector being able to change concentration by a negative amount.

Hey Toady, can syndrome concentrations be reduced, or can syndromes be otherwise directly 'cured' rather than simply counter-acted (removing the syndrome, such that the afflicted isn't now afflicted with a syndrome with opposite effects, but is no longer affected by the original syndrome) now?

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

Such a thing would require the capacity to actually order dwarves to gather specific things ("What part of the pea plant do I gather again? Oh well, I'll just uproot the whole thing!" "Hey, there's a whole pea plant here! I don't know which part is the pea, so I'll just not eat any of it...") as well as order dwarves to not only drink specific things, but things that are not normal drinking items, and/or mix drinks.

Not saying it would be a bad thing, mind you, I'm sure people would love the ability to point to specific things they want done, but that's a huge step up in Interface specificity. Right now, it's hard to even keep dwarves from deciding the hospital operating room isn't an appropriate place to have lunch, even when it's being actively used by a dwarf bleeding out from a syndrome. 

My greatest hope would be that experienced diagnosers can recognize syndromes and prescribe curatives (which the patient may or may not be willing to take without a direct order to do so) rather than simply prescribe surgeries. Hopefully less micromanagement than having to watch every dorf's medical status and find and prescribe the medication yourself.

[Button]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

Such a thing would require the capacity to actually order dwarves to gather specific things ("What part of the pea plant do I gather again? Oh well, I'll just uproot the whole thing!" "Hey, there's a whole pea plant here! I don't know which part is the pea, so I'll just not eat any of it...") as well as order dwarves to not only drink specific things, but things that are not normal drinking items, and/or mix drinks.

Not saying it would be a bad thing, mind you, I'm sure people would love the ability to point to specific things they want done, but that's a huge step up in Interface specificity. Right now, it's hard to even keep dwarves from deciding the hospital operating room isn't an appropriate place to have lunch, even when it's being actively used by a dwarf bleeding out from a syndrome.

Chain + stockpile, with a raising bridge or minecart delivery system to be safe.

[Shonai_Dweller]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

Such a thing would require the capacity to actually order dwarves to gather specific things ("What part of the pea plant do I gather again? Oh well, I'll just uproot the whole thing!" "Hey, there's a whole pea plant here! I don't know which part is the pea, so I'll just not eat any of it...") as well as order dwarves to not only drink specific things, but things that are not normal drinking items, and/or mix drinks.

Not saying it would be a bad thing, mind you, I'm sure people would love the ability to point to specific things they want done, but that's a huge step up in Interface specificity. Right now, it's hard to even keep dwarves from deciding the hospital operating room isn't an appropriate place to have lunch, even when it's being actively used by a dwarf bleeding out from a syndrome.

Right now Dwarves are diagnosed by a doctor and the medical team use the resources to hand to fix the problem. There's no need for the player to do anything but keep the hospital stocked up. The only thing extra needed in this case is a medicine cabinet and some chemists to keep it stocked up. Doesn't sound too complicated.

Doing specific things like hunting unicorns and mixing up potions step at a time seems more appropriate for adventure mode.

[FearfulJesuit]

I foresee future mods where your dwarves can blaze it all day erry day...

[cybergon]

Linking syndromes sounds like a good way to implement antidotes.

"Oh no, Rakust has been bitten by a weregopher! What will we do!?"
"She must be fed the tears of a unicorn before the new moon!"

I can see the alchemist skill wiping off all the dust and cobwebs in its lab.

[NW_Kohaku]

Right now Dwarves are diagnosed by a doctor and the medical team use the resources to hand to fix the problem. There's no need for the player to do anything but keep the hospital stocked up. The only thing extra needed in this case is a medicine cabinet and some chemists to keep it stocked up. Doesn't sound too complicated.

Doing specific things like hunting unicorns and mixing up potions step at a time seems more appropriate for adventure mode.

If you're talking about procedurally selected cures to procedurally generated syndromes and diseases, however, "keeping your hospital stocked" may involve tossing in every random extract and excretion of every plant and creature to ever exist.  You'd need some method of throttling or else candy stitches are going to be the least of your hospital-controlling concerns. 

Beyond that, you, at some point, need the capacity to actually gather said unicorn tears in the first place, and then designate them for stocking your hospital.