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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1200 on: January 25, 2015, 03:24:34 am »

I dunno, I like the idea of a fortress elf that gives us grown items we can use to trade with other elves.
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« Reply #1201 on: January 25, 2015, 03:58:09 am »

Perhaps that would require a large elf population or elf with the right knowledge. Or perhaps it's something related to elf sites that can't be replicated outside them. Before any of that we need Toady to decide how exactly elfs grow wood. No pun intended.
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« Reply #1202 on: January 25, 2015, 05:50:08 am »

Are there plans to expand the current list of musical instruments? It's pretty limited at one percussion, one string, and three wind instruments.
I think the new devlog indirectly answers this question now - Toady mentioned that there would be four instrument skills, versus the three types of instrument already in the game. So presumably, there'll be at least one keyboard instrument. Should be interesting, considering most could count as furniture that has to be built.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1203 on: January 25, 2015, 07:31:10 am »

Are there plans to expand the current list of musical instruments? It's pretty limited at one percussion, one string, and three wind instruments.
I think the new devlog indirectly answers this question now - Toady mentioned that there would be four instrument skills, versus the three types of instrument already in the game. So presumably, there'll be at least one keyboard instrument. Should be interesting, considering most could count as furniture that has to be built.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1204 on: January 25, 2015, 07:34:33 am »

Not quite, because an elf that is part of a Dwarven entity has Dwarven ethics, and presumably has access to the same technology and techniques. An elf (probably) doesn't know how to grow wood from birth, and even if they did Dwarven culture would likely view this ability as useless outside of a few niche applications.

Not if the elf came in as an adult migrant with existing skills and ethics. These elves might then raise their children as elves as well, leaving possibility for cultural intolerance, racism, inquisition and so on.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1205 on: January 25, 2015, 07:55:10 am »

Are there plans to expand the current list of musical instruments? It's pretty limited at one percussion, one string, and three wind instruments.
I think the new devlog indirectly answers this question now - Toady mentioned that there would be four instrument skills, versus the three types of instrument already in the game. So presumably, there'll be at least one keyboard instrument. Should be interesting, considering most could count as furniture that has to be built.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1206 on: January 25, 2015, 08:28:51 am »

Looks like Toady One answered my question about musical instruments with the latest devlog.

Also, bouncing off the current devlog:
Could tavern visitors potentially introduce other forms of poetry/music/dance with x chance of it catching on or someone getting inspired by it?

Also, will the tavern visitors occasionally pick up an instrument (assuming you have the one they want) and start playing or do their own singing or poetry? Would be great to see those from cultures besides that of our dwarves culture.


Are there plans to expand the current list of musical instruments? It's pretty limited at one percussion, one string, and three wind instruments.
I think the new devlog indirectly answers this question now - Toady mentioned that there would be four instrument skills, versus the three types of instrument already in the game. So presumably, there'll be at least one keyboard instrument. Should be interesting, considering most could count as furniture that has to be built.

He also talks about stats and even a generator for the instruments, so yes, that pretty much got answered.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2015, 08:41:50 am by smjjames »
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« Reply #1207 on: January 25, 2015, 09:08:35 am »

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He also talks about stats and even a generator for the instruments, so yes, that pretty much got answered.

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« Reply #1208 on: January 25, 2015, 10:28:33 am »

With the new break system, will dwarves make friends/grudges more frequently now?

Will artifact instruments have any unique quality or effect when played?
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« Reply #1209 on: January 25, 2015, 11:36:12 am »

He also talks about stats and even a generator for the instruments, so yes, that pretty much got answered.
Huh. I guess it could be an instrument generator. I took it that the music generator would instead be informed by the instrument stats in the civilization.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1210 on: January 25, 2015, 04:47:49 pm »

Does the new entertainment stuff apply to adventurers? Will I be able to play as a bard soon?
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« Reply #1211 on: January 25, 2015, 05:19:47 pm »

Does the new entertainment stuff apply to adventurers? Will I be able to play as a bard soon?
It might not happen in the first release (then again, it might), but if it doesn't, it should happen soon enough thereafter. Toady seems determined to manage the tavern stuff in two or three releases (I had predicted at least four releases), so either way you should get to play a bard relatively soon.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1212 on: January 25, 2015, 08:03:31 pm »

Quote from: Toady (devlog)
There will be both knowledge and skill-based components to this -- so you can't compose a poem of a variety you aren't familiar with, no matter how good you are, but once you learn the rules, the quality will depend on your skills/atts.
By what process will knowledge of poetic forms be acquired? Will skill affect how quickly a character picks it up?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1213 on: January 25, 2015, 10:20:33 pm »

Will we also be getting combat styles and per-weapon skills/attributes, similar to instruments?
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« Reply #1214 on: January 26, 2015, 12:40:37 am »

Will we also be getting combat styles and per-weapon skills/attributes, similar to instruments?

He literally says that it's something that he and Zach had planned. We'll probably get those in another development session when he is looking into combat stuff, which he isn't atm.

Here's a question that is somewhat less dev related and more fun:
Of the poem varieties/styles/forms that you're adding, what's your favorite?
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