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[Footkerchief]

I'm surprised that vein mining is getting implemented before multi-Z-level deposits -- seems like it'll necessitate a rewrite.

[Uronym]

I'm surprised that vein mining is getting implemented before multi-Z-level deposits -- seems like it'll necessitate a rewrite.

Toady is probably going to do a geology rewrite in the future; he probably wants it to be more robust for when he starts doing ravines, canyons, steeper mountains, and other geological features that he talked about a lot in recent DF Talks, but that's a very deep rabbit hole. Assuming he made these tiered designations work in the third dimension, he (probably) won't need to rewrite it when he gets to the better mineral veins in the near future.

GavJ has these really cool pictures of better three-dimensional geology...

[smjjames]

I'm surprised that vein mining is getting implemented before multi-Z-level deposits -- seems like it'll necessitate a rewrite.

Actually, it could just be something like the DFhack designation tool where you can designate a whole vein for mining. Granted it designates the WHOLE thing, even parts you don't see. So, it could just be a designation that says 'mine out this vein'.

If anything, the only rewrite would have to do with the pathing and digging out accross z levels.

[MrWiggles]

I'm surprised that vein mining is getting implemented before multi-Z-level deposits -- seems like it'll necessitate a rewrite.

Actually, it could just be something like the DFhack designation tool where you can designate a whole vein for mining. Granted it designates the WHOLE thing, even parts you don't see. So, it could just be a designation that says 'mine out this vein'.

If anything, the only rewrite would have to do with the pathing and digging out accross z levels.

I think Fookercheif is talking about having veins go across multiple z levels.

[Vattic]

Why is there a 2x2 minimum embark size limit?

I know I heard mention of this before in DFTalk or one of these threads, but searching has failed me.

[Uronym]

Why is there a 2x2 minimum embark size limit?

I know I heard mention of this before in DFTalk or one of these threads, but searching has failed me.

I am very interested in this too!

[Dirst]

I'm surprised that vein mining is getting implemented before multi-Z-level deposits -- seems like it'll necessitate a rewrite.

Actually, it could just be something like the DFhack designation tool where you can designate a whole vein for mining. Granted it designates the WHOLE thing, even parts you don't see. So, it could just be a designation that says 'mine out this vein'.

If anything, the only rewrite would have to do with the pathing and digging out accross z levels.

It could also be as simple as "dig out this tile and designate any adjacent tiles of the same material with this same include-adjacent style of designation."

Just be careful with layer stones!

[Zarathustra30]

I'm surprised that vein mining is getting implemented before multi-Z-level deposits -- seems like it'll necessitate a rewrite.

Actually, it could just be something like the DFhack designation tool where you can designate a whole vein for mining. Granted it designates the WHOLE thing, even parts you don't see. So, it could just be a designation that says 'mine out this vein'.

If anything, the only rewrite would have to do with the pathing and digging out accross z levels.

It could also be as simple as "dig out this tile and designate any adjacent tiles of the same material with this same include-adjacent style of designation."

Just be careful with layer stones!

I can see it now: "Dig out this chunk of diorite." "The entire cavern has collapsed!"

[hermes]

I'm so excited for the new job system.  Been playing my fort with about 70 dwarves once or twice a week and I keep forgetting what labors are set up properly and which are temporary and it is a horrible mess.  Well I guess my forts have always been that way, but the way the new system sounds like it's going to work seems like the way I've always wanted/expected it to work.  So, excited.   

[smjjames]

Eee. I really want to start up the first fort for 40.xx, but with new stuff keep coming, I just feel like waiting more, lol. Dangit, XD

Maybe I'll just have to force myself to get into it, I dunno, lol.

Or maybe I'm just waiting for this job priority rewrite.

No pressure on you though Toady One.

[hermes]

Heh yeah I eventually just buckled and had to play.  Would be cool if the Scamps code could have been cleaned up to make it in.

When adding new features/screens to the game, control wise do you have a scheme you are following that will be consistent with the future rewrite, or are the controls decided upon without an eye to the future because you know the UI rewrite is coming?

Maybe this was asked before or maybe it's not clear... It's just that even after playing for years the other night I hit a wall with the stocks kitchen screen and it took me a minute to work out to tab between screens.  I guess that's consistent with the civ screen, and I was tired and inebriated, but it raised that Q in my mind.  edit - would like to add that playing DF at speed is, currently, a pretty good form of mental gymnastics... I'm constantly aware of having to switch control schemes for different menus and mentally traverse esoteric hotkey menus, and I hope that in the future when everything is consistent someone recreates the old-school control scheme so it'll still be possible to experience that feeling.

[Andreus]

How many questions am I allowed to ask Toady at once? I have a lot of somewhat interrelated questions mostly pertaining to culture and the way in which it's generated.

[MrWiggles]

Go for it. You probably have a fair number of questions that the community can answer. And the community will probably catch those, and ToadyOne will devote less time to those questions.

[palu]

What was Scamps code?

[Inarius]

I was about to ask it, too. I suppose he didn't make too much syntax error