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[Toady One]

It has just been stuff like...  why isn't he mining...  why isn't he mining...  oh there he goes...  why did he leave those two squares?  I have no idea (5 tests and changes later)...  didn't leave any this time...  try one more time...  left two squares...  oh I think I have it...  now he isn't mining again...  why did you mine there instead of there?  Oh < is not >...  okay it looks like it works now...  but the marker designation looks bad...  there now it is better...  it's 3 already?  I should eat...  wait, where did that designation go?  it disappeared...  I have to fix that first...  okay it works now...  let me try to toggle the markers...  why don't they mine...  he isn't mining...  oh, whoops...  okay...  he mined half...  why did he mine half?  oh it was the hauling jobs clearing wrong...  okay he mined out the rooms...  now let's see if smoothing works...

[smjjames]

Okay then.

I also see lots of potential for bugs elsewhere in the system with other jobs, and maybe some confusion initially.

[Toady One]

Yeah, adding a gearbox between jobs and dwarves allows all kinds of cool stuff to happen, but it'll have potential to just shoot gears all over the place, especially at first, and sporadically forevermore.

[Mel_Vixen]

Oh Ai stuff is the worst, might help if you could look at a dwarves/the gearbox mind while the stuff is in progress - let it log the state of the variables and its decisions maybe.

I did softwaretesting for a time (even got an ISTQB cert - not that it was worth anything), it might help if you break down the decission path and setup up your testscenario accordingly (i am sure you can set/lock/look up the dwarves mind and states already?) say if a dorf should mine if its hunger < 25 (or whatever) you look what happens if you lock the hunger at the boundary cases (24 & 25). If you combine the decisions the right way even a complex piece of software can (with luck) become maybe a half dozen testcases to cover all decisions.

Back in the day i worked for a big german carcompany (ok they did outsource) and we had some nightmarish software we had to test based on the written description - being for companies dealerships the software was as nightmarish as an complex AI.


edit: sorry if you know/have that stuff already dont want to sound like a jerk, just trying to be helpful

[Rockphed]

it's 3 already?  I should eat...  wait, ...

Toady, have you been neglecting to eat properly?  Tsk, tsk, tsk.

[Scoops Novel]

Just watching dwarves make poor decisions repeatedly as I fix their little minds...

You should post some of the funny stuff that you see.

Sidles over

https://twitter.com/dwarfort_txt

[LordBaal]

Oh great Toady, binarysmith of wonders! I must ask How hard would it be, or do you think it would be, and/or when do you see (if at all) implementing a better control over stocks in the game trough the manager. That's it, not only making orders but also managing that certain things are always in stock.

[Dirst]

I think something is wrong with Toady's hunger counters.  This is like the longest strange mood ever, so it probably has lots of untested interactions with other parts of the system.

[Footkerchief]

Oh great Toady, binarysmith of wonders! I must ask How hard would it be, or do you think it would be, and/or when do you see (if at all) implementing a better control over stocks in the game trough the manager. That's it, not only making orders but also managing that certain things are always in stock.

This sounds like the "standing production orders" feature that's been widely suggested, and it's on the dev page:

Standing Production Orders

    Production triggers for new work orders
    Being able to link work orders and triggers to buildings

[Rose]

In the meantime, there's a DFHack utility that lets you keep a minimum of X amount of items y in your fortress, and people will make more once the amount goes below that number.

[monk12]

Yeah, adding a gearbox between jobs and dwarves allows all kinds of cool stuff to happen, but it'll have potential to just shoot gears all over the place, especially at first, and sporadically forevermore.

There's something beautiful about the phrase "sporadically forevermore."

[smjjames]

In the meantime, there's a DFHack utility that lets you keep a minimum of X amount of items y in your fortress, and people will make more once the amount goes below that number.

It would be cool if that were implemented, would reduce some of the micromanagement and allow you to pay attention to other things more.

[thedrelle]

Oh great Toady, binarysmith of wonders! I must ask How hard would it be, or do you think it would be, and/or when do you see (if at all) implementing a better control over stocks in the game trough the manager. That's it, not only making orders but also managing that certain things are always in stock.

^ this. so very much this!

[Sizik]

Do dwarves (in Fortress mode) ever change their gait?

[Putnam]

Do dwarves (in Fortress mode) ever change their gait?

Yes. Whenever they flee, they run or sprint. You can tell because they start moving faster than normal.