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[Lightman]

I tried to create an account on the wiki so I could contribute.

First, the e-mail validation failed (both attempts), even though I used a valid address:

Dwarf Fortress Wiki could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your e-mail address for invalid characters.
Mailer returned: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function.

Second, all the ads were intolerable.  They interfered with everything and were very intrusive.  I'd be willing to donate space for a wiki without ads but I'd really like to see a better deployment without the annoying ads.

[Gnomeknows]

browser addons such as Noscript will open up a whole new world for you, ads?  What ads??

[My Urist Eternal]

Ads are what pay for the site, so it would be cool if you could learn to live with them. I have the wiki whitelisted in Adblock plus.

[Gnomeknows]

Are you forgetting about donations?  I'd much rather donate then deal with intrusive ads. 

[Locriani]

We don't accept donations because we'd much rather your monetary donations go to ToadyOne. If the ads are too intrusive, feel free to block them with adblock or something similar, I won't be offended.

There is currently a problem with our mailer service that I'm looking into, but I don't have an ETA for a fix. I'll probably have more time to take a good long look at it this upcoming weekend.

[Locriani]

Also, if you have a specific instance of an ad blocking any wiki content (or otherwise being intrusive), please take a screenshot and note the page & advertisement so I can resolve the problem.

[Lasander]

I didn't know the wiki ever had ads.

I guess ignorance can be bliss!

[Melting Sky]

I didn't know the wiki ever had ads.

I guess ignorance can be bliss!

It does but they don't tend to be intrusive enough that I notice them.

[cherbert]

We don't accept donations because we'd much rather your monetary donations go to ToadyOne. If the ads are too intrusive, feel free to block them with adblock or something similar, I won't be offended.

There is currently a problem with our mailer service that I'm looking into, but I don't have an ETA for a fix. I'll probably have more time to take a good long look at it this upcoming weekend.

Have a monthly donation target to pay for the hosting required and any excess each month can be donated to Bay12.

[Hyperturtle]

Hmm, I am not clear on the costs--

is it a cost to do the hosting?  What is included in that package? Or is it a cost to use the software?

Are charges including bandwidth?  How does it scale the load, or does it? 

I'm curious as to the monthly bandwidth load; some sites have ads that pay for themselves, and some are labors of love!

(Personally, if a family member has a blog with ads, I don't understand why they expect me to watch the ads so they can make money trying to show me their baby/vacation/new shiny object pictures -- but then I am strange that way.  The wiki is another matter entirely--that's hobby or business, and is more acceptable in that regard.)

[Locriani]

We don't accept donations because we'd much rather your monetary donations go to ToadyOne. If the ads are too intrusive, feel free to block them with adblock or something similar, I won't be offended.

There is currently a problem with our mailer service that I'm looking into, but I don't have an ETA for a fix. I'll probably have more time to take a good long look at it this upcoming weekend.

Have a monthly donation target to pay for the hosting required and any excess each month can be donated to Bay12.

The costs for hosting the wiki are actually fairly high, approaching $1k a month. We have a fairly large load balanced setup which gives us high uptime and high load tolerance.

The advertisements bring in around $500-700 a month. I cover the difference.

[mnjiman]

*clicks on ads*

[sal880612m]

^Does clicking on the ads make a difference?

[Locriani]

You shouldn't feel the need to click on ads just to make things better for me, although I appreciate it. Instead, if there's something that interests you, check it out, but if you just click on random ads a couple things happen:

• your ad profile gets all jacked up and you start seeing silly ads all over the place on the interwebs
• the wiki's ad profile gets all jacked up and you start seeing silly ads all over the wiki
• the ads (if you just click randomly) get rejected as invalid clicks and marked as fraudulent, and I don't get the however many pennies per click on an ad because fraudulent clicks.

I only ask for one thing: that you contribute to the wiki. Hosting costs / whatever else are otherwise all taken care of.

[MarcAFK]

..... Just... wow.
How much then would it cost Toady to host the forums? Seriously on a bad month he only gets 3 times that in donations which get taxed too