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[lemon10]

Spoiler: Ireland turn 48 (click to show/hide)

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    <tileorder type="bImp" x="10" y="23">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
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    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="13" y="14"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="11" y="14"/>
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  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="21"/>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="38">
      <building code="cMine"/>
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      <unittype code="knight"/>
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      <building code="trnF"/>
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      <building code="trnF"/>
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      <building code="univ"/>
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      <targetunit unitid="226"/>
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      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
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      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
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      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
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Trade Mercia 8 iron for 80 wood.

I find myself in a severe need of wood. Not only to build my navy (which isn't particularly necessary at this point, as there isn't really any other navy in the area anymore), but to build all the improvements I need.

In return for wood, I would be willing to trade stone, iron or money. After turn 50 I will also be willing to trade food. And since there is so much wood on the continent, I figure someone over there must be willing to trade some.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

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    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="17" y="34"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="18" y="34"/>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="15" y="37">
      <improvement code="lumb"/>
    </tileorder>
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      <building code="wWall"/>
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      <unittype code="axem"/>
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      <unittype code="knight"/>
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      <building code="horsB"/>
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    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="33">
      <building code="univ"/>
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    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="35">
      <cityname/>
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    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="35">
      <cityname>Observation Point Castercliff</cityname>
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    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="35">
      <cityname>Observation Point 1A Castercliff</cityname>
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      <targetunit unitid="234"/>
      <newname>Gruffydd ap Cyngen</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="161"/>
      <newname>1st Haverfordwest Knights</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="182"/>
      <newname>2nd Haverfordwest Knights</newname>
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    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="185" x="15" y="30">
      <targetunit unitid="200"/>
      <newname>3rd Haverfordwest Knights</newname>
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      <newname>4th Haverfordwest Knights</newname>
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      <newname>Haverfordwest Garrison</newname>
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    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="92" x="19" y="25">
      <targetunit unitid="235"/>
      <newname>1st Wrexham Knights</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="194"/>
      <newname>2nd Wrexham Knights</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="247"/>
      <newname>3rd Wrexham Knights</newname>
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      <newname>Castercliff Garrison</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="94"/>
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      <targetunit unitid="141"/>
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      <targetunit unitid="81"/>
      <newname>1st Machynlleth Crossbowmen</newname>
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      <newname>1st Machynlleth Blades</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="27"/>
      <newname>1st Lampeter Axemen</newname>
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      <newname>Borderwatch</newname>
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      <targetunit unitid="2"/>
      <newname>Highwaymen</newname>
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      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
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Give 100 stone, 100 gold, 5 iron, and 5 wood to Ireland.

You know, I think Pictland had a lot stronger of a start compared to everyone else.  I don't think it was even possible for it to be able to conquer it, as it would be able to build up and stop you before you got halfway across its land.

[notquitethere]

If Northumbria and Mercia (hopefully with Wessex too) had teamed up, they could have taken out Wales and presented a united front against Pictland.

[lemon10]

Population statistics of Ireland:
Total Area: 131
Controlled area needed for me to win: 104/105
Current controlled area: 93
Projected controlled area at turn 50:  98
Controlled area at turn 50 *if* I take pop out of all my cities to use in claiming more tiles: 107

As you can see from those statistics, I can claim enough of Ireland to win. But actually doing it requires that I take two pop from all my cities (that I can remove pop from), and will set me back at least 4 turns of building production (and probably more). Looking forward, I have decided that a more powerful nation is more important then fulfilling the turn 50 victory requirement.

Also, everyone has posted a turn NQT.

[notquitethere]

Update when I get home tomorrow. I don't mind if you try to pursue your wincons now the game is shifting, the point was mostly to encourage to pursue asymetrical goals.

I think most people have won or lost by now, though it might still be possible for Pictland to win. When turn 50 arrives, I'll retire Northumbria and play the Danes (unless a new player wants to jump in?).


Everyone okay with the new goal being Everyone vs. The Danes?

[Vanigo]

I think most people have won or lost by now, though it might still be possible for Pictland to win.

Take out Mercia and Wessex in two turns? Not even if he had five hundred invulnerable cavalry units. He doesn't even have time to reach Wessex, let alone destroy it.

[Rolepgeek]

I think he means destroy them at all.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

If Northumbria and Mercia (hopefully with Wessex too) had teamed up, they could have taken out Wales and presented a united front against Pictland.

If they tried to kill me, I'd just pump out as many ships as possible, scatter them across the map, and run them around the map like crazy.  If I'm lucky, I could get one to survive until turn 40, them make a beeline for any unclaimed territory on a coastline.

Edit: Or I could become a Vassal State of Pictland or Wessex.

[Rolepgeek]

See, that's not called a winning strategy, Zanz, that's called being a dick.

Which also why to be considered defeated for Win condition purposes, you should just have no cities above size 4 left, and no reasonable chance of completing your win condition.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

See, that's not called a winning strategy, Zanz, that's called being a dick.

Which is why I would aim for Vassal State, providing whoever was taking the time to provide protection whatever resources I could scrounge.

[notquitethere]

Yeah, I forgot Pictland had to kill Wessex as well. Really they had a better chance taking out Ireland now I think about it.

Will update in approximately 3 hours or so.

[Varee]

I think my army is currently the biggest in size? but the quality is ...questionable at best

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: 862 AD (click to show/hide)

Ireland:

62 food used to gain 1 free population
63 food used to gain 1 free population
63 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (10,23)
Tile (13,14) claimed
Tile (11,14) claimed
Narsis grows to size 3
Cavern Mines built in Bréanainn
Knights raised in Irada
Training Field built in Abbeyvale
Training Field built in Abbleton
University built in New York
Galleon (226) moved to Irish Navy
Ireland army 250 is empty and is disbanded
Irish Navy moves to (18,19)
Ireland army 267 moves to (10,22)


Mercia:

64 food used to gain 1 free population
65 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (28,21) claimed
Richmond shrinks to size 3
Middlesbrough shrinks to size 2
York shrinks to size 4
Halberdiers raised in Lincoln
Crossbowmen raised in Birmingham
Bowmen raised in Nottingham
Bowmen raised in Manchester
Bowmen raised in Bridlington
Training Field built in Shrewsbury
Training Field built in Sheffield
Archery Range built in Grimsby
Mercia army 269 moves to (25,26)
North Garrison Force moves to (28,24)
Heartland Garrison moves to (27,25)
Mercia army 224 moves to (25,26)
Wessex has razed your village on (27,28)!
Mac Conniston Division has conquered Richmond!
   Population reduced to 2
Pictland has razed your village on (26,19)!


Northumbria:

City Jedburgh built at (24,16)
Cleanup has conquered Ashington!


Wessex:

50 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (28,30)
Farm built at (29,30)
Woodcutters built at (26,29)
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Winchester
Grand Bazaar built in Nothingham
Military Academy built in Londinium
Bowmen raised in Center plain
Bowmen raised in Southern Trek
Archery Range built in Sane's Outpost
Granary built in BungKarn
Army Wessex army 281 created
Lancers (72) moved to Wessex army 281
Bowmen (231) moved to Wessex army 272
Army Wessex army 282 created
Army Wessex army 283 created
Sponge moved to Wessex army 282
Shrek moved to Wessex army 283
Army Wessex army 284 created
Bill moved to Wessex army 284
Wessex army 255 is empty and is disbanded
Wessex army 266 moves to (25,31)
Wessex army 76 moves to (22,31)
Wessex army 271 moves to (29,29)
Wessex army 265 moves to (25,31)
Wessex army 281 moves to (23,31)
Wessex FRU moves to (25,29)
Wessex army 270 moves to (22,32)
Wessex army 282 moves to (24,31)
Wessex army 283 moves to (25,30)
Wessex army 284 moves to (23,32)
Wessex army 256 moves to (30,30)
Wessex army 272 moves to (24,34)
Wessex army 273 moves to (24,34)
Capital Defend force moves to (24,30)
Axer raider moves to (27,31)
Wessex army 227 has razed Mercia's village on (27,28)!


Wales:

43 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (17,34) claimed
Tile (18,34) claimed
Woodcutters built at (15,37)
Palisade built in Aberaeron
Axemen raised in Machynlleth
Knights raised in Lampeter
Breeder's Pasture built in Wrexham
University built in Haverfordwest
Castercliff renamed to
 renamed to Observation Point Castercliff
Observation Point Castercliff renamed to Observation Point 1A Castercliff
Knights (248) moved to Lampeter Garrison
3rd Knights moved to Lampeter Garrison
Knights (247) moved to Wrexham Garrison
Swordsmen (249) moved to (Future) Cardiff Garrison
Mounted Crossbowmen (234) moved to Welsh Sixth Mobile
Knights (200) moved to Welsh Sixth Mobile
Knights (214) moved to Welsh Sixth Mobile
Mounted Crossbowmen (234) renamed to Gruffydd ap Cyngen
Gruffydd ap Cyngen renamed to 1st Haverfordwest Knights
Knights (182) renamed to 2nd Haverfordwest Knights
Knights (200) renamed to 3rd Haverfordwest Knights
Knights (214) renamed to 4th Haverfordwest Knights
Welsh Sixth Mobile renamed to Haverfordwest Garrison
Knights (235) renamed to 1st Wrexham Knights
4th Knights renamed to 2nd Wrexham Knights
Knights (247) renamed to 3rd Wrexham Knights
Welsh First Mobile renamed to Castercliff Garrison
1st Blades renamed to 1st Castercliff Blades
1st Knights renamed to 1st Castercliff Knights
2nd Knights renamed to 2nd Castercliff Knights
1st Crossbow renamed to 1st Machynlleth Crossbowmen
Swordsmen (249) renamed to 1st Machynlleth Blades
1st Axemen renamed to 1st Lampeter Axemen
Knights (248) renamed to 1st Lampeter Knights
3rd Knights renamed to 2nd Lampeter Knights
Welsh Fourth Mobile renamed to Borderwatch
1st Spearmen renamed to Highwaymen
Wales army 217 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 258 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 276 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 274 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 275 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 244 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 232 moves to (16,36)
Wales army 260 moves to (12,38)


Pictland:

77 food used to gain 1 free population
78 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (26,16)
Farm built at (21,14)
Farm built at (22,13)
Galleon raised in North Tor
Galleon raised in Conniston
Knights raised in Caern Michaels
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Mott Fergusa
Marketplace built in Windermere
Pikemen raised in Whitehaven
Pikemen (250) moved to Whitehaven Warriors
Pictland army 277 disbanded
Pikemen (250) renamed to Regimented Spears
Knights (251) renamed to Fitz Robert Familia
Mounted Crossbowmen (252) renamed to Royal Huntsmen
Pikemen (253) renamed to Drilled Spears
Drilled Spears moved to Windermere Garrison
Pictland army 280 disbanded
Army Pictland army 285 created
Dunbroch Familia moved to Pictland army 285
Pictland army 285 renamed to Dunbroch Division
Dunbroch Division moves to (27,20)
Kings Guard moves to (26,22)
Pictland army 278 moves to (18,8)
Roving Band moves to (25,16)
Raiders moves to (25,18)
Janitors moves to (23,16)
Engineer Corps moves to (25,14)
Mac Conniston Division has conquered Richmond!
   Population reduced to 2
Riders has razed Mercia's village on (26,19)!
Cleanup has conquered Ashington!
Conquer (23,18) with army More Raiders failed: cannot conquer unclaimed tiles

Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

None

Long barges carrying wood, stone blocks, gold and iron pass back and forth between Grimsby, Aberaeron and New York, as Ireland comes to the fore as a serious trade partner. The peace settlement of timber, sent from Lincoln to Winchester, was not enough to persuade the insatiable west saxons from persuing a policy of revanchism, swarming north to conquer Mercian lands. All the while the Scots spread downwards, taking Richmond (and its iron supply), and occupying York, the once proud seat of the Northumbrians.


Turn 49: 863 AD

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Spoiler: Win Conditions (click to show/hide)

For the wincons below: a nation is considered defeated if it has no cities and no units and no reasonable chance of completing its wincon. Ireland is considered 'taken over' by a non-Irish power if they're the only one with size 5 cities and greater on it (and have a size 6 city on it themselves) and Ireland doesn't control more then 50% of the Island.

Irish Kingdom: Take over 80% of Ireland 
Mercia: Defeat the other Anglo-Saxon nations (Northumbria, Wessex) OR Defeat the Britons (Picts/Welsh/Irish).
Wessex: Hold Winchester until the Danes come. You can lose and retake it, but if it's ever destroyed or if it's owned by a foreign nation in 865AD, you'll lose.
Wales: Survive until the Danes come. This means 'have at least one Welsh territory and one Welsh unit alive' in 865 AD.
Pictland: Defeat the Anglo-Saxon Nations (Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex) OR take over Ireland
Northumberland: Defeat the Picts OR take over Ireland

The game can end prematurely if one faction wipes out all other factions, which is also considered a win. Win conditions are only checked in 865 AD and you only can win if you're not defeated.

Mercia - Rolepg
Wessex - Varee
Northumbria - Evil Marahadja (Currently auto'd by the mod)
Wales - Zanz
Ireland - Lemon10
Pictland - Kashyyk

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: Northumbria (click to show/hide)

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    <tileorder type="bCity" x="23" y="22">
      <cityname>Keighley</cityname>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="49">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders/>
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[Varee]

yeah I dont know what I can do to help you with the pict, mercia. I got a feeling if i go up there the army will just run into each other and kill each other as i dont think we can have like cooperative peace I will retreat back to the agreed border, but that mine is mine for now

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<playerturn player="Varee">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="27" y="28"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="6">
      <building code="cMine"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="0">
      <unittype code="hbow3"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="40">
      <building code="gran"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="46">
      <building code="arcR"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="22">
      <building code="bowyer"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="12">
      <unittype code="bowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="30">
      <unittype code="bowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="18">
      <unittype code="bowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="256" x="30" y="30"/>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="283" x="25" y="30"/>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="282" x="24" y="31"/>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="284" x="23" y="32"/>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="227" x="27" y="28">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="19" x="27" y="31">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="294" x="26" y="36">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="271" x="29" y="29">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders></playerturn>

also I think i used to have alot of wood, I got more than 100 stock piled ten turn ago but these bows and arrows need lot of logs. And I dont know what I could do with the pict now, it one turn away from the end ....