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[lemon10]

Yes, I have very little motivation of playing this game any longer. Since I have very slim chance of winning.

Yeah, no worries. There really isn't anything you can do at this stage. Your spearman can probably burn another one of my tiles or maybe two, but that's pretty much it.
E:
My thoughts on what you should have avoided: You should have kept your two units together. If you had had them the odds would have went from me winning easily even while fighting you on hilly terrain to a possible win for you. This would have meant either using both of them to destroy my things in the north (which would have allowed you to burn another ~4 of my tiles at least), or sending them both south to fight my armies. You might not have won the battle, but you would have had a much better chance.
Also, if you had built a longboat instead of a barge, you could have gotten your swordsman (alone) over to my capital by turn 21. You might have lost that battle, but it you had won then I would be out of the game.
E2:

Yes, I have very little motivation of playing this game any longer. Since I have very slim chance of winning.

I can auto you if you'd like to drop out? As ever I prefer it when people go down fighting, but I understand where you're coming from.

Ehh, he pretty much did stick around till he was out completely. He hasn't had a real chance of victory for like 5 turns, but he still stuck it out till now regardless.

[Varee]

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<playerturn player="Varee">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="28" y="35"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="28">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="12">
      <unittype code="healer"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="18">
      <building code="apoth"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="0">
      <unittype code="cata"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="6">
      <unittype code="lance"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="22">
      <building code="gran"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="67" x="29" y="31">
      <targetunit unitid="65"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="19"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="3" x="26" y="31">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="34" x="27" y="28">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders></playerturn>

Welsh, what are you doing .....

[lemon10]

Just throwing a bump out there for notquitethere to let him know that everyone has posted.

[notquitethere]

Sorry yeah, hectic few days. Update imminent.

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: 841 AD (click to show/hide)

Ireland:

31 food used to gain 1 free population
31 food used to gain 1 free population
32 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (10,22) claimed
Farm built at (10,25)
Abbeyvale grows to size 4
Foundry built in Irada
Royal Army moves to (12,21)


Mercia:

50 food used to gain 1 free population
Longbowmen raised in Lincoln
Master Blacksmiths built in Birmingham
Palisade built in Irontown
Barracks built in York
Coenwulf's Band moves to (26,22)
Mercian Militia moves to (27,28)


Northumbria:

Tile (21,18) claimed
Road built at (13,17)
Narsis shrinks to size 2
Pikemen raised in Last hope
Training Field built in New York
Raiders moves to (12,17)


Wessex:

42 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (28,35)
Training Field built in Sane's Outpost
Healers raised in Southern Trek
Apothecary built in Shorine
Catapult raised in Londinium
Lancers raised in Winchester
Granary built in Nothingham
Spearmen (65) moved to Axer raider
Wessex army 67 is empty and is disbanded
Axemen raider moves to (25,29)
Egbert moves to (24,33)
Wales has razed your village on (22,33)!


Wales:

32 food used to gain 1 free population
University built in Wrexham
Crossbowmen raised in Lampeter
Swordsmen (66) renamed to Blades of God
Wales army 68 renamed to Welsh Finest
Wrexham Defensive Forces moves to (19,25)
Welsh Finest moves to (21,32)
Machynlleth Defensive Forces moves to (20,35)
Scouting Party has razed Wessex's village on (22,33)!


Pictland:

62 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (26,19) claimed
Conniston grows to size 4
Cavern Mines built in Caern Michaels
Library built in Windermere
Marketplace built in North Tor
Army Pictland army 70 created
Pictland army 70 renamed to Raiders
Skirmishers moved to Raiders
Spearmen (67) renamed to Mac Dougal Clansmen
Mac Dougal Clansmen moved to Roving Gang
Pictland army 69 disbanded
Lancers (63) renamed to Huscarl Riders
Huscarl Riders renamed to Mounted Huscarls
Pictland army 65 renamed to Warrior Band
Army Pictland army 71 created
Pictland army 71 renamed to Reinforcements
Mac Dougal Clansmen moved to Reinforcements
Distant Dustcloud moves to (23,24)
Warrior Band moves to (24,14)
Roving Gang moves to (26,19)
Raiders moves to (18,19)
Reinforcements moves to (26,19)

The Northumbrians continue to crumble, assaulted on all fronts and Narsis on the Isle of Man invaded, while the Picts threaten more settlements and build up their seige of Irontown. The Welsh begin raiding Wessex lands after so many years building their strength, burning villages and marching on Sane's Outpost. Egbert and his weary men rush back west to deal with the threat. The Mercians try to deal with the last of the Wessex raiders, but they escape their grasp.

Turn 28: 842AD

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Spoiler: Win Conditions (click to show/hide)

For the wincons below: a nation is considered defeated if it has no cities and no units and no reasonable chance of completing its wincon. Ireland is considered 'taken over' by a non-Irish power if they're the only one with size 5 cities and greater on it (and have a size 6 city on it themselves) and Ireland doesn't control more then 50% of the Island.

Irish Kingdom: Take over 80% of Ireland 
Mercia: Defeat the other Anglo-Saxon nations (Northumbria, Wessex) OR Defeat the Britons (Picts/Welsh/Irish).
Wessex: Hold Winchester until the Danes come. You can lose and retake it, but if it's ever destroyed or if it's owned by a foreign nation in 865AD, you'll lose.
Wales: Survive until the Danes come. This means 'have at least one Welsh territory and one Welsh unit alive' in 865 AD.
Pictland: Defeat the Anglo-Saxon Nations (Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex) OR take over Ireland
Northumberland: Defeat the Picts OR take over Ireland

The game can end prematurely if one faction wipes out all other factions, which is also considered a win. Win conditions are only checked in 865 AD and you only can win if you're not defeated.

Mercia - Rolepg
Wessex - Varee
Northumbria - Evil Marahadja (Currently auto'd by the mod)
Wales - Zanz
Ireland - Lemon10
Pictland - Kashyyk

Spoiler: Northumbria Turn 27 (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Evil Marahadja">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="21" y="18"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="13" y="17"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="17">
      <unittype code="pike"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="subPop" cityid="21"/>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="25">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="26" x="11" y="18">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Kashyyk]

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<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="19" y="4">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="19" y="3">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="24" y="14"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="27"/>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="19">
      <building code="eng"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="8">
      <building code="cavY"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="71" x="26" y="19">
      <targetunit unitid="67"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="9"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="71" x="26" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="54" x="26" y="19">
      <targetunit unitid="54"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="9"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="54" x="26" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="nArmy" armyid="Kashyyk78" x="26" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="Kashyyk78" x="26" y="19">
      <newname>Roving Band</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="9" x="26" y="19">
      <targetunit unitid="54"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="Kashyyk78"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="49" x="23" y="24">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="70" x="18" y="19"/>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="65" x="24" y="14">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="Kashyyk78" x="26" y="19"/>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

Unless someone pulls out an absolutely stunning play, I expect Ireland, Wessex and Wales to be the winners.

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: Northumbria Turn 28 (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Evil Marahadja">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="21" y="18">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="25" y="14"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="17">
      <unittype code="bboat"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="25">
      <unittype code="spear"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="26" x="12" y="17">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Varee]

Welsh I dont understand why you are marching on me .... I thought we had a deal :C

[Varee]

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<playerturn player="Varee">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="31" y="29"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="6">
      <unittype code="cbowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="28">
      <building code="wWall"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="22">
      <building code="smith"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="12">
      <building code="baz"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="0">
      <unittype code="bowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="75" x="28" y="33">
      <targetunit unitid="71"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="53"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="3" x="24" y="33">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="76" x="24" y="34">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="53" x="28" y="33">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="74" x="26" y="36">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="34" x="25" y="29"/>
  </armyorders></playerturn>

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Welsh I dont understand why you are marching on me .... I thought we had a deal :C

The only deal we ever made was to take 17,35 and 18, 34 off of your hands.  At the current time, I have no effective places to place another city.  The lands west of Winchester looked like a good place to build one, while, at the same time, provide a nice land connection between my territories.

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<playerturn player="Zanzetkuken">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="22" y="33"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="7">
      <building code="cMine"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="13">
      <unittype code="cbowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="24">
      <building code="gran"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="77" x="19" y="30">
      <targetunit unitid="73"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="0"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="1" x="20" y="35"/>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="0" x="19" y="30">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="62" x="22" y="33">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[lemon10]

Spoiler: Ireland turn 28 (click to show/hide)

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<playerturn player="Lemon10">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="10" y="22">
      <improvement code="horseI"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="9" y="19">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="6" y="20">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="7" y="22"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="8" y="20"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="9" y="23"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="14">
      <unittype code="sword"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="2" x="12" y="21">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

E: Craaaap. I just noticed I built a master blacksmith instead of a cavern mine in Irada on turn 27. Is there an chance at all that you would be willing to change it to a cavern mine?

[Rolepgeek]

This is getting utterly ridiculous.

Why am I going last every single goddamn turn?

[Rolepgeek]

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<playerturn player="Rolep">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="27" y="28"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="24" y="27"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="26" y="26"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="25" y="23"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="9">
      <unittype code="lbowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="subPop" cityid="11"/>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="4">
      <unittype code="lbowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="5">
      <building code="apoth"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="72" x="27" y="25">
      <targetunit unitid="68"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="66"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="72" x="27" y="25"/>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="66" x="27" y="25">
      <newname>Reinforcements</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="66" x="27" y="25">
      <targetunit unitid="64"/>
      <newname>Moar Archers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="66" x="27" y="25">
      <targetunit unitid="68"/>
      <newname>We Have Reserves</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="5" x="26" y="22">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="58" x="27" y="28">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="66" x="27" y="25">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[lemon10]

Unless someone pulls out an absolutely stunning play, I expect Ireland, Wessex and Wales to be the winners.

A lot can change in 20 turns. I wouldn't be that surprised if you managed to squeak out a win. Not that it would be easy, but it is certainly possible. And depending on how aggressive Wales is Wessex might lose too. Similarly, if you attack me aggressively enough, then I will probably lose (not that you could win that way).

Looking at the victory conditions, Mercia got kind of shafted. All the other players have "survive" or have variable victory condition that allows them to win just by wiping out one player (notably Ireland). Mercia has to wipe out at least two players, and both of them in opposite directions. Their other victory condition (defeating Wales, Pictland and Ireland) is functionally impossible unless every single thing goes perfectly.

[Rolepgeek]

Eh, at this point, with Northumbria gone, all I have to do is beat down Wessex. Unfortunately, Pictland is pulling some horse run-about bullshit, which is annoying and doesn't actually really do anything beyond piss me off, but it does certainly do that.