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[notquitethere]

Spoiler: 634 AD (click to show/hide)

Ireland:

23 food used to gain 1 free population
24 food used to gain 1 free population
24 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (9,25)
Farm built at (11,25)
Tile (11,15) claimed
Tile (6,27) claimed
Tile (5,27) claimed
Axemen raised in Irada
Conchobar moves to (9,25)


Mercia:

46 food used to gain 1 free population
47 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (25,20)
Tile (28,30) claimed
Tile (27,30) claimed
Longbowmen raised in Birmingham
Barracks built in Lincoln
Longbowmen (35) moved to Mercian Archers Brigade
Longbowmen (35) renamed to Longbowomen
Mercia army 33 disbanded
Mercia army 38 renamed to Birmingham Militia
Mercian Archers Brigade moves to (26,27)
Mercia army 39 moves to (26,21)
Mercia army 13 moves to (26,19)
Wessex has razed your village on (26,30)!


Northumbria:

25 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (14,17)
Farm built at (13,17)
Farm built at (14,19)
Farm built at (20,20)
Farm built at (21,19)
Farm built at (21,20)
Raiders moves to (11,20)
Kings men moves to (10,23)


Wessex:

37 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (29,32)
Claim (28,30) failed: Already claimed by Mercia
Tile (28,31) claimed
Palisade built in Nothingham
Longbowmen raised in Winchester
Library built in Southern Trek
Spearmen raised in Londinium
Egbert moves to (26,30)
Wessex army 34 moves to (28,31)
Wessex army 19 moves to (29,30)
Jutes has razed Mercia's village on (26,30)!


Wales:

29 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (14,37)
Wrexham grows to size 3
Cavern Mines built in Lampeter


Pictland:

58 food used to gain 1 free population
Palisade built in Eanerd
Windermere grows to size 3
Smithy built in Mott Fergusa
Library built in North Tor
Spearmen (40) renamed to Mac Fergusa Clansmen
Mac Fergusa Clansmen moved to Causantin and Friends
Pictland army 40 disbanded
Lancers (41) renamed to Huscarl Riders
Pictland army 41 renamed to Rangers
Lonely Band moves to (25,15)
Rangers moves to (23,13)

The Irish prepare to eject the foreign raiders from their shores while the Northumbrian spread their tendrils across the land. The Mercians find themselves in a pinch, caught between the Picts to the north and Wessex to the south. The Welsh, peaceful behind Offa's Dyke and in the wilds of Dumnonia, tap new mines and slowly build their wealth.

Turn 21: 635AD

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Spoiler: Win Conditions (click to show/hide)

For the wincons below: a nation is considered defeated if it has no cities and no units and no reasonable chance of completing its wincon. Ireland is considered 'taken over' by a non-Irish power if they're the only one with size 5 cities and greater on it (and have a size 6 city on it themselves) and Ireland doesn't control more then 50% of the Island.

Irish Kingdom: Take over 80% of Ireland 
Mercia: Defeat the other Anglo-Saxon nations (Northumbria, Wessex) OR Defeat the Britons (Picts/Welsh/Irish).
Wessex: Hold Winchester until the Danes come. You can lose and retake it, but if it's ever destroyed or if it's owned by a foreign nation in 665AD, you'll lose.
Wales: Survive until the Danes come. This means 'have at least one Welsh territory and one Welsh unit alive' in 665 AD.
Pictland: Defeat the Anglo-Saxon Nations (Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex) OR take over Ireland
Northumberland: Defeat the Picts OR take over Ireland

The game can end prematurely if one faction wipes out all other factions, which is also considered a win. Win conditions are only checked in 665 AD and you only can win if you're not defeated.

Mercia - Rolepg
Wessex - Varee
Northumbria - Evil Marahadja
Wales - Zanz
Ireland - Lemon10
Pictland - Kashyyk


Lemon

Well, looks like I lose the game. Or at least I can't win. Being able to colonize 80% of Ireland by turn 50 would be difficult even without someone burning my villages. With it and me having to pump resources into an army I don't have a real chance at claiming 80% of Ireland even if I do easily kick evil majarada off the island. That doesn't mean I am going to roll over and die of course, but I feel it necessary to note that I can no longer win.

I've done the maths, there's a 130 Ireland tiles and you've got 46 of them and you need 104. You're averaging +3 pop a turn, even if you had just +2 pop a turn you'd still get there within the time limit with a bit of wiggle room for razing. Remember if you conquer Northumbrian cities, you can appropriate their population (and obviously the tiles they take up). I'm not saying it'll be easy, but it's definitely still possible. Remember you also win if all the other factions are defeated, if you think that'd be an easier wincon. That all said, I'd be willing to switch the Irish wincon to be the same as the non-Irish take-over-Ireland wincon. This is all quite experimental and I don't expect everything to be wholly balanced right out of the gate.

[lemon10]

Well, looks like I lose the game. Or at least I can't win. Being able to colonize 80% of Ireland by turn 50 would be difficult even without someone burning my villages. With it and me having to pump resources into an army I don't have a real chance at claiming 80% of Ireland even if I do easily kick evil majarada off the island. That doesn't mean I am going to roll over and die of course, but I feel it necessary to note that I can no longer win.

I've done the maths, there's a 130 Ireland tiles and you've got 46 of them and you need 104. You're averaging +3 pop a turn, even if you had just +2 pop a turn you'd still get there within the time limit with a bit of wiggle room for razing. Remember if you conquer Northumbrian cities, you can appropriate their population (and obviously the tiles they take up). I'm not saying it'll be easy, but it's definitely still possible. Remember you also win if all the other factions are defeated, if you think that'd be an easier wincon. That all said, I'd be willing to switch the Irish wincon to be the same as the non-Irish take-over-Ireland wincon. This is all quite experimental and I don't expect everything to be wholly balanced right out of the gate.

Heh. Taking over the world within 50 turns is impossible for Ireland. Now, if I had 100 turns with which to do it, it would be possible (if insanely hard).
I'm willing to tough it out with my current wincon. I might not be able to win, but its worth a try.
Your calculations are wrong though, I don't get 3 pop per turn. I have 51 pop at turn 21, which is just about 2.5 pop. That's only claiming river tiles and making two cities. With almost all of the river tiles claimed, I only have less productive riverless plains and hills to claim. I am also going to need a bunch of small cities to build farms everywhere (which will probably cost like 10 more pop). Now, you are right, I still have a chance at achieving my goal, but it's going to be tough.

My only real balance complaint for this game is those swordsmen. They are strong enough that they overshadow pretty much all units that could be produced by a player in the time it takes them to attack. They weren't gamebreaking though, since most of the people had them, but they still had a huge impact on the game for those who didn't start with one. Maybe having them only be defensive (eg. can't leave your territory) units would have been better.

Spoiler: Ireland turn 21 (click to show/hide)

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<playerturn player="Lemon10">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="7" y="25"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="12" y="23"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="12" y="15"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="12" y="21"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="14">
      <unittype code="pike"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="2" x="9" y="25">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

Spoiler: Ireland turn 22 (click to show/hide)

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<playerturn player="Lemon10">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="13" y="24"/>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="7" y="24">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="6" y="27">
      <improvement code="quarr"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="9" y="26"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders/>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="46" x="6" y="26">
      <targetunit unitid="46"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="42"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <newname>Irish Regulars</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Evil Marahadja]

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<playerturn player="Evil Marahadja">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="12" y="17"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders/>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="6" x="15" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="6" x="15" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="6" x="15" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="6" x="15" y="19"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="6" x="15" y="19"/>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="36" x="10" y="23">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="26" x="11" y="20"/>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

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<playerturn player="Zanzetkuken">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="20" y="30">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="13">
      <building code="aqueduct"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="24"/>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders/>
</playerturn>

[lemon10]

I think I'll just throw a tiny bump in here...

[Kashyyk]

Sorry, was away for the weekend

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<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="16" y="9">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="22" y="14"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="23">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="16">
      <building code="eng"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="8">
      <unittype code="lance"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="35" x="25" y="15">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="41" x="23" y="13">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[lemon10]

*Strokes mustache menacingly*.

[Varee]

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<playerturn player="Varee">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="22" y="34">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="25" y="31"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="22"/>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="18">
      <building code="bank"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="12">
      <building code="univ"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="19" x="29" y="30"/>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="45" x="28" y="33">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="34" x="28" y="31">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="44" x="24" y="34">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="4" x="26" y="30">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders></playerturn>

[notquitethere]

Just RoleP now.

[Rolepgeek]

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<playerturn player="Rolep">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bCity" x="25" y="20">
      <cityname>Irontown</cityname>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="25" y="31"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="24" y="29"/>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="22" y="29">
      <improvement code="hunt"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="23" y="29">
      <improvement code="hunt"/>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="9">
      <unittype code="lbowmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="5">
      <unittype code="spear"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="43" x="23" y="28">
      <targetunit unitid="43"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="38"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="39" x="26" y="21">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="30" x="26" y="27">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: 635 AD (click to show/hide)

Ireland:

25 food used to gain 1 free population
25 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (7,25)
Tile (12,23) claimed
Tile (12,15) claimed
Tile (12,21) claimed
Pikemen raised in Irada
Conchobar moves to (8,26)
Northumbria has razed your village on (11,20)!


Mercia:

47 food used to gain 1 free population
47 food used to gain 1 free population
City Irontown built at (25,20)
Claim (25,31) failed: Already claimed by Wessex
Road built at (24,29)
Hunter's Camp built at (22,29)
Hunter's Camp built at (23,29)
Longbowmen raised in Birmingham
Spearmen raised in York
Longbowmen (43) moved to Birmingham Militia
Mercia army 43 is empty and is disbanded
Mercian Archers Brigade moves to (25,28)
Mercia army 39 moves to (26,19)
Wessex has razed your village on (29,30)!


Northumbria:

Tile (12,17) claimed
Eanred disbanded
Disband army Eanred failed: Army already disbanded
Disband army Eanred failed: Army already disbanded
Disband army Eanred failed: Army already disbanded
Disband army Eanred failed: Army already disbanded
Kings men moves to (10,24)
Raiders has razed Ireland's village on (11,20)!


Wessex:

37 food used to gain 1 free population
38 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (22,34)
Tile (25,31) claimed
Nothingham grows to size 4
Bank built in Shorine
University built in Southern Trek
Wessex army 45 moves to (27,31)
Wessex army 44 moves to (25,32)
Jutes moves to (27,30)
Wessex army 34 moves to (28,30)
Wessex army 19 has razed Mercia's village on (29,30)!


Wales:

30 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (20,30)
Aqueduct built in Lampeter
Wrexham grows to size 4


Pictland:

59 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (16,9)
Tile (22,14) claimed
Training Field built in Windermere
Engineer's Guild built in Mott Fergusa
Lancers raised in Caern Michaels
Rangers moves to (25,15)
Lonely Band moves to (25,18)

In 635, the various armies repositions, spread out, manoeuvred. Plans were drawn, figures pushed on maps in smoky tents, arrow points sharpened and horses corralled. There would yet be a reckoning.

Turn 22: 636AD

Player interface
Admin Interface

Spoiler: Win Conditions (click to show/hide)

For the wincons below: a nation is considered defeated if it has no cities and no units and no reasonable chance of completing its wincon. Ireland is considered 'taken over' by a non-Irish power if they're the only one with size 5 cities and greater on it (and have a size 6 city on it themselves) and Ireland doesn't control more then 50% of the Island.

Irish Kingdom: Take over 80% of Ireland 
Mercia: Defeat the other Anglo-Saxon nations (Northumbria, Wessex) OR Defeat the Britons (Picts/Welsh/Irish).
Wessex: Hold Winchester until the Danes come. You can lose and retake it, but if it's ever destroyed or if it's owned by a foreign nation in 665AD, you'll lose.
Wales: Survive until the Danes come. This means 'have at least one Welsh territory and one Welsh unit alive' in 665 AD.
Pictland: Defeat the Anglo-Saxon Nations (Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex) OR take over Ireland
Northumberland: Defeat the Picts OR take over Ireland

The game can end prematurely if one faction wipes out all other factions, which is also considered a win. Win conditions are only checked in 665 AD and you only can win if you're not defeated.

Mercia - Rolepg
Wessex - Varee
Northumbria - Evil Marahadja
Wales - Zanz
Ireland - Lemon10
Pictland - Kashyyk


Remember, if you are thinking of attacking, it's mechanically more advantageous to combine your men into a single army, rather than having lots of armies on the same tile (as they'll each attack separately).

[Kashyyk]

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<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="23" y="14"/>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="20" y="9">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="19" y="10">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="23">
      <building code="arcR"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="8">
      <building code="aqueduct"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="49" x="23" y="11">
      <targetunit unitid="49"/>
      <newname>Huscarls on Horseback</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="49" x="23" y="11">
      <newname>Distant Dustcloud</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="35" x="25" y="18">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="41" x="25" y="15">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="49" x="23" y="11">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

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<playerturn player="Zanzetkuken">
  <tileorders/>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="13"/>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="24">
      <building code="smith"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="7">
      <building code="eng"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders/>
</playerturn>

[lemon10]

Spoiler: Ireland turn 22 (click to show/hide)

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<playerturn player="Lemon10">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="6" y="27">
      <improvement code="quarr"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="7" y="24">
      <improvement code="farm"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="8" y="25"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="6" y="24"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders/>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="46" x="6" y="26">
      <targetunit unitid="46"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="42"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <newname>Irish Royals</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="2" x="8" y="26">
      <newname>Royal Army</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <newname>Prince's men</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <targetunit unitid="42"/>
      <newname>Cathal</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <newname>Princes' men</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <targetunit unitid="46"/>
      <newname>Eochócan</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="42" x="6" y="26">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="2" x="8" y="26">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

The royal heirs march from Irada, and soon they will unite with their father to drive out the Northumbrian scum from the shores of Ireland.
((No offense intended of course to any Northumbrians reading this)).

[Evil Marahadja]

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<playerturn player="Evil Marahadja">
  <tileorders/>
  <cityorders/>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="36" x="10" y="24">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="26" x="11" y="20">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>