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[Sisyphean]

hey guys quick question about migration, i recently started a new fort as part of the civ of my retired fort (retired not abandoned so its still there), in the summer i get a migrant family of husband wife and their 3 kids both adults are exceptionally skilled for what i need so i was happy with that.

anyway i have been producing a lot of wealth i sold 16 k worth to my first trade caravan which arrived with the msg "no envoy? how strange..." which i understand means im all thats left of my civ (dunno how my last fort couldve died i think ill have to reclaim it at some point to find out ).

one month after the trade caravan arrived i got the msg "the fortress attracted no migrants this season" which has confused me a fair amount because my fort is a lot more successfull than most of my forts have been at this point and the second migrant wave normaly takes me upto 25, so do i have a penalty to migration because my civ is dead? (i read somewhere on the wiki migrant waves are based on what the envoy reports to civ homeland???)

[Amperzand]

I'm fairly sure that if the home civ is out of dorfs, they stop sending dorfs, since new migrants are mostly real historical figures and such.

[Sisyphean]

so does that mean that imigration is completely stopped and i can expect no more or does it mean it that immigration waves are going to be small?

if its the latter and i will still get immigrants albeit in small numbers then i can live with that, if on the other hand im not going to get any through then im not sure 12 dorfs is a large enough genetic pool to continue the civ and i may be better abandoning.....

[herocrafter]

Can a marksdwarf shoot diagonally through a fortification?

........................F F F F
....................W W{        the marksdwarf, {, is behind a row of fortifications, F, with a wall, W, to his left.

[Loci]

anyway i have been producing a lot of wealth i sold 16 k worth to my first trade caravan which arrived with the msg "no envoy? how strange..." which i understand means im all thats left of my civ (dunno how my last fort couldve died i think ill have to reclaim it at some point to find out ).

There are various reasons why your liaison wouldn't show up, and it's unlikely that your civilization has been annihilated since the trade caravan did arrive (truly extinct
civilizations send no caravans).

Can a marksdwarf shoot diagonally through a fortification?

Yes.

[herocrafter]

Can a marksdwarf shoot diagonally through a fortification?

Yes.

Thanks. One more question now:
Can a marksdwarf shoot though two fortifications?  In the prior diagram if I change the two wall to the left of the marksdwarf into fortifications (making a diagonal wall) will he shoot though both?

[Detros]

Can a marksdwarf shoot diagonally through a fortification?

Yes.

Thanks. One more question now:
Can a marksdwarf shoot though two fortifications?  In the prior diagram if I change the two wall to the left of the marksdwarf into fortifications (making a diagonal wall) will he shoot though both?

Fortifications can't be shoot through by archers (marksdwarves) unless they are either highly skilled or standing next to it. So common archers can shoot through only one fortification. Neither ballista nor catapults are affected by fortifications.

Wrap such ascii art with tag "code" (# button above editing area) next time.

[herocrafter]

Fortifications can't be shoot through by archers (marksdwarves) unless they are either highly skilled or standing next to it. So common archers can shoot through only one fortification. Neither ballista nor catapults are affected by fortifications.

So are saying skilled marksdwarfs can shoot though a diagonal wall of fortication (two fortification)? I'm trying to determine where to put the fortifications on the  top of my mostly round tower base but don't want to put any where they wouldn't be used.  I knew the part about inexperienced having to be next to the fortifications and that's built into the plan but didn't know about the ballista or catapults.  Ballista I think just stay at the same z-level so that's out but catapults might be fun.  I'll have to look into that.

Oh, you can't color in code

[Amperzand]

so does that mean that imigration is completely stopped and i can expect no more or does it mean it that immigration waves are going to be small?

if its the latter and i will still get immigrants albeit in small numbers then i can live with that, if on the other hand im not going to get any through then im not sure 12 dorfs is a large enough genetic pool to continue the civ and i may be better abandoning.....

I think usually they just stop coming, I could be wrong though.

[Sisyphean]

I think usually they just stop coming, I could be wrong though.

well that seemed like it was the case because i had 2 more seasons without immigrants but then just as i was about to givce up i recieved a wave of 11. interestingly all of them are quite highly skilled.. most of the time i dont get more than 1 or 2 points i anything but these guys all have at least 1 skill at 6 and a lot of them are really useful skills....

on a side not the waves seem to consist of whole families.... my first wave was a single family and my most recent wave is 2 families... ive never had this before normally my waves are just a bunch of randomers.

[Detros]

I think usually they just stop coming, I could be wrong though.

well that seemed like it was the case because i had 2 more seasons without immigrants but then just as i was about to givce up i recieved a wave of 11. interestingly all of them are quite highly skilled.. most of the time i dont get more than 1 or 2 points i anything but these guys all have at least 1 skill at 6 and a lot of them are really useful skills....

on a side not the waves seem to consist of whole families.... my first wave was a single family and my most recent wave is 2 families... ive never had this before normally my waves are just a bunch of randomers.

They could be coming from your previous forts in the same world thus having some proficiency in skills you like.

[Amperzand]

Actually, since travel time is rendered now, if they're coming from your old forts, they'll take a long time to get to you.

[pisskop]

Do dwarves no longer get the wood burning happiness bonus?

[Loci]

Do dwarves no longer get the wood burning happiness bonus?

What bonus? They can admire fine furnaces (as architectural buildings), but it needn't be in operation.

[pisskop]

hummmm

I guess I thought that them watching burning wood made them happy in 34.